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I don't want Google to block any sites. I don't need nor want a personalized internet filter bubble. What I want Google to do is learn to recognize spammy or ir

by geuis 15y ago

I don't want Google to block any sites. I don't need nor want a personalized internet filter bubble. What I want Google to do is learn to recognize spammy or irrelevant sites and rank them lower.

jigs_up 15y ago
You want a global internet filter bubble then?
- geuis 15y ago
  Your comment doesn't even make sense. Look, take a few minutes and watch this. http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles.html http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bu... When a site gets blocked by Google, it doesn't disappear from the internet but all of a sudden it disappears to hundreds of millions of people. Poof. Gone. If a site gets ranked lower, then it won't get as much traffic but at least its still findable. Even spammy sites deserve a chance to turn their shit around (although it almost never happens). If I want to block a site for just me, fine. There's browser extensions that do that. However, when Google or Bing or DuckDuckGo lets you do it and then uses that data in ranking sites for other people there's a Big Filter Problem. Or alternatively, there's a Big Fucking Problem.
  - joebadmo 15y ago
    Ranking something lower, especially if it gets knocked off the first page, has the same effect in kind, if not degree, as blocking. I'm not sure which part of this you think contributes to the filter bubble effect (which I'm skeptical about in the first place). If I block a site, it's because I don't want to see results from it, and I was never going to visit it anyway. How is using blocking data as part of the algorithm any bigger a filter problem than any other part of the algorithm? Google uses many, many search signals and this is just one of them. And I imagine a pretty good one.
rocktronica 15y ago
I'd assume this is doing that, people just don't know it.
vaksel 15y ago
if I feel that site X is spammy...why should I be forced to keep seeing it in my search results so that I avoid a personal internet bubble?
bigiain 15y ago
This will give their "almighty algorithm" a great input for recognizing "spammy" sites. Of course, as soon as it starts working, we'll get various religious or politically motivated groups blocking sites they don't agree with, and blackhat SEOs selling packages of botnetted or mechanical turk-ed "blocks" of your competitor's sites...

by geuis 15y ago

I don't want Google to block any sites. I don't need nor want a personalized internet filter bubble. What I want Google to do is learn to recognize spammy or irrelevant sites and rank them lower.

jigs_up 15y ago

You want a global internet filter bubble then?

geuis 15y ago
Your comment doesn't even make sense. Look, take a few minutes and watch this. http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles.html http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bu... When a site gets blocked by Google, it doesn't disappear from the internet but all of a sudden it disappears to hundreds of millions of people. Poof. Gone. If a site gets ranked lower, then it won't get as much traffic but at least its still findable. Even spammy sites deserve a chance to turn their shit around (although it almost never happens). If I want to block a site for just me, fine. There's browser extensions that do that. However, when Google or Bing or DuckDuckGo lets you do it and then uses that data in ranking sites for other people there's a Big Filter Problem. Or alternatively, there's a Big Fucking Problem.
- joebadmo 15y ago
  Ranking something lower, especially if it gets knocked off the first page, has the same effect in kind, if not degree, as blocking. I'm not sure which part of this you think contributes to the filter bubble effect (which I'm skeptical about in the first place). If I block a site, it's because I don't want to see results from it, and I was never going to visit it anyway. How is using blocking data as part of the algorithm any bigger a filter problem than any other part of the algorithm? Google uses many, many search signals and this is just one of them. And I imagine a pretty good one.

rocktronica 15y ago

I'd assume this is doing that, people just don't know it.

vaksel 15y ago

if I feel that site X is spammy...why should I be forced to keep seeing it in my search results so that I avoid a personal internet bubble?

bigiain 15y ago

This will give their "almighty algorithm" a great input for recognizing "spammy" sites. Of course, as soon as it starts working, we'll get various religious or politically motivated groups blocking sites they don't agree with, and blackhat SEOs selling packages of botnetted or mechanical turk-ed "blocks" of your competitor's sites...