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What about trolling. Assume 4chan figures out apples algorithm. What now happens when they start generating memes that happen to match known child pornography?
by delusional 5y ago
What about trolling. Assume 4chan figures out apples algorithm. What now happens when they start generating memes that happen to match known child pornography? Will anyone who saves those memes (or repost them to reddit/facebook) be flagged? What will apple do once flagged false positive photos go viral?
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- sunshinerag 5y ago>> Will anyone who saves those memes (or repost them to reddit/facebook) be flagged? Shouldn't they be?
- paulryanrogers 5y agoUmm, no? If someone happens upon some funny cat meme that 4chan users made with an intentional hash collision then they're not guilty of anything. A poor analogy could be trolls convincing a flash mob to dress like a suspect's description which they overheard with a police scanner. No one in the mob is guilty of anything more than poor fashion choice.
- Frost1x 5y agoThe point made was that there are always flaws in these sorts of approaches that lead to false positives. If you can discover the flawed pattern(s) that leads to false positives and engineer them into seemingly harmless images, you can quite literally do what OP I'd suggesting. It's a big IFF but it's not theoretically impossible. The difference between this and hashes that require image data to be almost identical is that someone who accidently sees it can avoid and report it. If I can make cat photos that set off Apple's false positives, then there's a lot of people who will be falsely accused of propagating child abuse photos when they're really just sending cat memes.
- mirkules 5y agoOne way this hair-brained Apple program could end is to constantly generate an abundance of false positives, and try to render it useless. For those old enough to remember “Jam Echelon Day”, maybe it won’t have any effect. But what other recourse do we have other than to maliciously and intentionally subvert and break it?
- summm 5y agoWhat recourse? how about not buying apple devices that have always locked the user into a golden cage?
- mirkules 5y agoYou would be naive to believe other companies don’t do this or eventually will not do this. In the same way I was naive to believe Apple was different from others and cared about user privacy.