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Exactly. It's the same argument when Corona contact-tracing was discussed and later implemented. First using paper forms and later using apps. Why would you o
by sharken 5y ago
Exactly. It's the same argument when Corona contact-tracing was discussed and later implemented.
First using paper forms and later using apps.
Why would you object to limiting the spread of the Coronavirus ?
Fast forward to the present where law enforcement in Germany, Australia and Singapore have used contact-tracing for other purposes.
So no to this plan from Apple, they must discard all plans of client-side scanning and instead increase their privacy stance.
- mung 5y agoCould you please expand on the other uses of contact tracing in those countries?
- sharken 5y agoThis is a compilation of what others have posted: - Germany https://www.golem.de/news/hamburg-polizei-nutzt-corona-kontaktlisten-nach-straftat-2007-149482.html https://www.golem.de/news/hamburg-polizei-nutzt-corona-konta... https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2021/luca-app-ccc-fordert-bundesnotbremse https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2021/luca-app-ccc-fordert-bund... - Australia Australia, WA, check-in data: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/safewa-app-sparks-urgent-law-change-after-police-access-data/100201340 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/safewa-app-sparks-urg... Australia, WA, border pass data: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/g2g-app-data-accessed-for-investigations-as-well-wa-police-admit/100222804 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/g2g-app-data-accessed... Australia, VIC, check-in data: https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/police-sought-access-to-qr-check-in-data-intended-for-contact-tracing-20210621-p582x4.html https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/police-sought-ac... Australia, QLD, check-in data: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/queensland-coronavirus-check-in-app-police-data-search/100249624 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/queensland-coronaviru... - Singapore https://fortune.com/2021/02/01/singapore-covid-data-tracetogether-use-law-criminal/ https://fortune.com/2021/02/01/singapore-covid-data-tracetog... https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/police-can-access-tracetogether-data-only-through-person-involved-in-criminal https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/police-can-a... https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/proposed-restrictions-to-safeguard-personal-contact-tracing-data-will-override-all-other https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/proposed-restrictions... https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/bill-limiting-use-of-tracetogether-for-serious-crimes-passed-with-govt-assurances https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/bill-limitin...
- mung 5y agoThank you, that was very thorough and enlightening.
- xdennis 5y ago> Fast forward to the present where law enforcement in Germany, Australia and Singapore have used contact-tracing for other purposes. I don't understand how people were so naive to install those applications. I did the exact opposite: whipped my phone and bought two cheap ones so I can separate my calling phone (which I leave home), from my media phone (no connections), and my GPS phone (no connections aside from GPS and turned off most of the time).