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> This client side scanning of local files can be easily extended to scan the whole device Correct, Apple can access unencrypted files stored on your device.

by midev 5y ago

> This client side scanning of local files can be easily extended to scan the whole device Correct, Apple can access unencrypted files stored on your device. > That's why the eff was calling it a backdoor Accessing unencrypted files on a device is not a backdoor > actively reporting any suspicious looking files to the authority all the time on its own Yep, that's a problem. Not a backdoor, though.

rblatz 5y ago
What is your deal. You are out here arguing in bad faith all over this thread. What is your motivation?
- midev 5y ago
  What's the bad faith? What's single thing have I said that is incorrect? It's not breaking E2E encryption. No one is locking people up for political photos. It's not using facial recongition. I don't like FUD driving discussions. I think we need to have serious discussions about this technology. I think people that don't understand it shouldn't participate....
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    > It's not breaking E2E encryption. It's not breaking it, but it is rendering it moot. Why even bother with E2E encryption if you can't trust your endpoint? Would upgrading your exterior door's security protect you from theft if it's your roommate who's stealing from you? > No one is locking people up for political photos. Authoritarian dictatorships like China are, and they'd love to use this tool to help them with that.
  - option_greek 5y ago
    Arguing about what's possible today while wilfully ignoring what's possible tomorrow. It almost feels like you are a GPT3 bot. I wish we had a bot detector in place.
  - pmlnr 5y ago
    Breaking encryption is not a "requirement" of a backdoor.
  - ratww 5y ago
    You have repeatedly misrepresented other people's viewpoints in order to win this argument. Maybe you have completely misunderstood what the discussion is about, but since you're doing it repeatedly and have been called on it multiple times, it is fair for others to assume bad faith.
feanaro 5y ago
> Accessing unencrypted files on a device is not a backdoor In what weird universe is this even remotely true?

by midev 5y ago

rblatz 5y ago

What is your deal. You are out here arguing in bad faith all over this thread. What is your motivation?

midev 5y ago
What's the bad faith? What's single thing have I said that is incorrect? It's not breaking E2E encryption. No one is locking people up for political photos. It's not using facial recongition. I don't like FUD driving discussions. I think we need to have serious discussions about this technology. I think people that don't understand it shouldn't participate....
- josephcsible 5y ago
  > It's not breaking E2E encryption. It's not breaking it, but it is rendering it moot. Why even bother with E2E encryption if you can't trust your endpoint? Would upgrading your exterior door's security protect you from theft if it's your roommate who's stealing from you? > No one is locking people up for political photos. Authoritarian dictatorships like China are, and they'd love to use this tool to help them with that.
- option_greek 5y ago
  Arguing about what's possible today while wilfully ignoring what's possible tomorrow. It almost feels like you are a GPT3 bot. I wish we had a bot detector in place.
- pmlnr 5y ago
  Breaking encryption is not a "requirement" of a backdoor.
- ratww 5y ago
  You have repeatedly misrepresented other people's viewpoints in order to win this argument. Maybe you have completely misunderstood what the discussion is about, but since you're doing it repeatedly and have been called on it multiple times, it is fair for others to assume bad faith.

feanaro 5y ago

> Accessing unencrypted files on a device is not a backdoor In what weird universe is this even remotely true?