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> people misunderstand how it works You can literally read any thread on HN or Reddit to see this is the case. Thousands of comments about facial recognition a
by midev 5y ago
> people misunderstand how it works
You can literally read any thread on HN or Reddit to see this is the case. Thousands of comments about facial recognition and AI, completely misunderstanding how it works. The EFF article itself was FUD.
The EFF article starts right off claiming a backdoor, which is completely incorrect. Taking hashes of client-side content is not a backdoor, and the EFF should be embarrassed for not understanding that.
- rdedev 5y agoThis client side scanning of local files can be easily extended to scan the whole device. That's why the eff was calling it a backdoor. All it takes is for the right govt to put the right preassure on apple. In a way it's kinda worse than a backdoor since your phone is actively reporting any suspicious looking files to the authority all the time on its own. The govt dosent need to actively look for it. Just add the appropriate has of what it wants discovered to the db and wait
- midev 5y ago> This client side scanning of local files can be easily extended to scan the whole device Correct, Apple can access unencrypted files stored on your device. > That's why the eff was calling it a backdoor Accessing unencrypted files on a device is not a backdoor > actively reporting any suspicious looking files to the authority all the time on its own Yep, that's a problem. Not a backdoor, though.
- rblatz 5y agoWhat is your deal. You are out here arguing in bad faith all over this thread. What is your motivation?
- midev 5y agoWhat's the bad faith? What's single thing have I said that is incorrect? It's not breaking E2E encryption. No one is locking people up for political photos. It's not using facial recongition. I don't like FUD driving discussions. I think we need to have serious discussions about this technology. I think people that don't understand it shouldn't participate....
- josephcsible 5y ago> It's not breaking E2E encryption. It's not breaking it, but it is rendering it moot. Why even bother with E2E encryption if you can't trust your endpoint? Would upgrading your exterior door's security protect you from theft if it's your roommate who's stealing from you? > No one is locking people up for political photos. Authoritarian dictatorships like China are, and they'd love to use this tool to help them with that.
- option_greek 5y agoArguing about what's possible today while wilfully ignoring what's possible tomorrow. It almost feels like you are a GPT3 bot. I wish we had a bot detector in place.
- pmlnr 5y agoBreaking encryption is not a "requirement" of a backdoor.
- ratww 5y agoYou have repeatedly misrepresented other people's viewpoints in order to win this argument. Maybe you have completely misunderstood what the discussion is about, but since you're doing it repeatedly and have been called on it multiple times, it is fair for others to assume bad faith.
- feanaro 5y ago> Accessing unencrypted files on a device is not a backdoor In what weird universe is this even remotely true?
- stjohnswarts 5y agoThe spirit of EFF comments is 100% correct. It got them a $100 donation from me today as well on top of my annual $500 donation at Christmas time.