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It really depends... The EV travel is a different cadence, for sure. Whether that's a bad thing or not will depend on the individual. The 30-40 minute stops

It really depends... The EV travel is a different cadence, for sure. Whether that's a bad thing or not will depend on the individual. The 30-40 minute stops every couple hours that I have experienced in my older Tesla (60kwh, later upgraded to 75kwh), is nice to nap, visit attractions, eat and use restrooms, walk the dog... It definitely makes for a different trip than screeching to a stop at the pump, running in to pee while the pump is running, and then lighting the tires up on the way out of the station. I've done that plenty of trips in the past. It's kind of brutal TBH.

dylan604 5y ago
Except you just turned a 2 day drive into 3 days. 24 hour drive from DFW->LA. That takes 1 overnight stay now in sane driving conditions for a solo driver. You now just kicked it into a 2nd overnight. >running in to pee while the pump is running anyone doing this deserves to be ripped off for leaving an authorized pump to do whatever someone wants to do while you're not there. no different than leaving the keys in the ignition and the car running while you "run" in for a sec. you're also being rude to the next person in line. anyways, back to my original point is that an EV is great for in town day-to-day use or maybe shorter hops. cross country trips would make me consider renting ICE powered just do i don't loose more days than i already am for driving vs flying.
- _nalply 5y ago
  > anyone doing this deserves to be ripped off This is theft. Plain and simple theft. I dream of a world where everybody can leave the keys in the ignition and the doors open because nobody steals. Thieves are caught and are given a stern warning and therapy. It's an utopia.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    It is a crime of opportunity that "you" created. Had "you" not been lazy, the situation would not have existed for the thief to thieve. "You" did it to "yourself"
    - _nalply 5y ago
      And your punishment for this sin is well earned! /s
- linsomniac 5y ago
  Can't speak specifically about DFW->LA (looks like 1,400 miles), but in my Tesla I can do Denver to Wilmington with 0 overnights, sane, as a solo driver... 1,800 miles. Precisely BECAUSE of the charging, I can get in a "power nap" while charging, doing the recommended 25 or 50 minutes to fit with sleep cycles. Usually around 24 hours in I need to take an extra 50 minute nap in there. Again, it really depends on the individual. This works for me. As far as leaving the pump goes, I was painting a picture of some of the "death march" drives I've done, didn't necessarily say I was solo. I, personally, wouldn't leave the pump while pumping, not because of theft but because, you know, of the spewing of gasoline if something went wrong. As far as your original point... I've done that math multiple times, I have 2 gas cars and the EV, and continue to pick the EV over the ICE. But, again, that will vary by individual. My personal experience, coming as a gearhead who has taken quite a few non-stop road trips both solo and with others, is that the EV for long trips (I've done 5-6 1,800 mile trips in it), are better in my EV than ICE cars, and that's with 5 year old tech. A current Tesla will have fewer, shorter stops. Your speculation is perfectly valid, of course. Doesn't sound like you've had an EV, which is why I call it speculation. The point I'm making is that I've actually had that choice, 1,800 mile trip where I can take a EV or a ICE, and I've chosen the EV on multiple occasions.

dylan604 5y ago

Except you just turned a 2 day drive into 3 days. 24 hour drive from DFW->LA. That takes 1 overnight stay now in sane driving conditions for a solo driver. You now just kicked it into a 2nd overnight. >running in to pee while the pump is running anyone doing this deserves to be ripped off for leaving an authorized pump to do whatever someone wants to do while you're not there. no different than leaving the keys in the ignition and the car running while you "run" in for a sec. you're also being rude to the next person in line. anyways, back to my original point is that an EV is great for in town day-to-day use or maybe shorter hops. cross country trips would make me consider renting ICE powered just do i don't loose more days than i already am for driving vs flying.

_nalply 5y ago
> anyone doing this deserves to be ripped off This is theft. Plain and simple theft. I dream of a world where everybody can leave the keys in the ignition and the doors open because nobody steals. Thieves are caught and are given a stern warning and therapy. It's an utopia.
- dylan604 5y ago
  It is a crime of opportunity that "you" created. Had "you" not been lazy, the situation would not have existed for the thief to thieve. "You" did it to "yourself"
  - _nalply 5y ago
    And your punishment for this sin is well earned! /s
linsomniac 5y ago
Can't speak specifically about DFW->LA (looks like 1,400 miles), but in my Tesla I can do Denver to Wilmington with 0 overnights, sane, as a solo driver... 1,800 miles. Precisely BECAUSE of the charging, I can get in a "power nap" while charging, doing the recommended 25 or 50 minutes to fit with sleep cycles. Usually around 24 hours in I need to take an extra 50 minute nap in there. Again, it really depends on the individual. This works for me. As far as leaving the pump goes, I was painting a picture of some of the "death march" drives I've done, didn't necessarily say I was solo. I, personally, wouldn't leave the pump while pumping, not because of theft but because, you know, of the spewing of gasoline if something went wrong. As far as your original point... I've done that math multiple times, I have 2 gas cars and the EV, and continue to pick the EV over the ICE. But, again, that will vary by individual. My personal experience, coming as a gearhead who has taken quite a few non-stop road trips both solo and with others, is that the EV for long trips (I've done 5-6 1,800 mile trips in it), are better in my EV than ICE cars, and that's with 5 year old tech. A current Tesla will have fewer, shorter stops. Your speculation is perfectly valid, of course. Doesn't sound like you've had an EV, which is why I call it speculation. The point I'm making is that I've actually had that choice, 1,800 mile trip where I can take a EV or a ICE, and I've chosen the EV on multiple occasions.