I think HN takes the incorrectly perceived moral high ground and ignore the fact that there is a real duty to act here. There are people who profit from CSAM a

I think HN takes the incorrectly perceived moral high ground and ignore the fact that there is a real duty to act here. There are people who profit from CSAM and in turn this creates a market for abuse. Unless we create structures which disincentivizes these behaviors — right now there are none - they will continue to grow. What Apple is building will basically make any criminal who sells to someone sloppy enough to store in iCloud risk being traced as the origin of the CSAM. Back to the darkest web they go. Anti CSAM is inevitable. You will find similar systems for all major providers eventually.