Make an actual argument. HN is getting a bit pathetic. Address the issues / topics raised. What content does your comment add? Nothing. I am pointing out that

Make an actual argument. HN is getting a bit pathetic. Address the issues / topics raised. What content does your comment add? Nothing. I am pointing out that there already are efforts around total encrypted privacy. Tor network is doing it. So are others. As they are taken over by bad actors - the rest of the world starts cutting them off and blocking them. When folks talk about this hurting apples brand - you could not be more wrong. Seriously, address the points I'm making. Apple is currently providing relatively strong E2E encryption (a leader actually in that). They are now going to match that with screening on probably the #1 issue that is out there around encrypted networks, the issue that often forces folks to backdoor things. They also are going to be offering what seem like thoughtful features for users. Parents in particular with kids accounts have concerns (reasonable) about tech - and they will help to address that. For all the "brand damage" HN goes on about here, in the larger world this may be popular and or very accepted. And yes, if android becomes known as the home of the pedo's - that's not going to be an apple brand problem, but an android one. Surprisingly often we've seen others COPY apple, usually after loudly pointing out that they won't.