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They’re illegal because people vote for representatives who makes them illegal and show up to city council meetings to petition for them to be illegal. Existin

by 542458 5y ago

They’re illegal because people vote for representatives who makes them illegal and show up to city council meetings to petition for them to be illegal. Existing areas in that style tend to be expensive, but are often (at least where I’ve lived) some of the most NYMBY areas in a city. They like the benefits their density has brought, but won’t tolerate the lot next to them getting one iota more dense.

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
> They’re illegal because people vote for representatives who makes them illegal Yes, but that's not because nobody wants to live in them. It's because a loud subsection of the people that already own single-family homes there don't want them built. You seem to recognize this. That's different from saying "Americans don't want to live in this sort of housing".
- 542458 5y ago
  Ah sorry! That’s fair - I understand what you’re saying now. That said, I’d argue that this is a bit of people wanting their cake and to eat it too. They want a contradiction - to be close to everything (so they can walk places and be in the middle of the action), but also far away from it (so they have privacy and room). So - It’s true to say that people want density, but also true to say they don’t.
imgabe 5y ago
The people who show up to city council meetings and pay attention to local politics are a tiny minority. It is not a stretch to believe that they do not represent what most people want.
xorfish 5y ago
It will become a necessity in a few decades. Single family homes that are up to code don't bring in enough tax revenue to pay for the infrastructure that is necessary to suport them. Same thing goes for strip mals. You can try to run a deficit forever, it is just a really bad idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_SXXTBypIg&list=PLJp5q-R0lZ0_FCUbeVWK6OGLN69ehUTVa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_SXXTBypIg&list=PLJp5q-R0lZ...
UncleMeat 5y ago
Is that because they don't prefer that design, or because protecting the price of their house is so essential to their long term financial stability that they'll block literally any policy, no matter how good, if it threatens their house price?

by 542458 5y ago

PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago

> They’re illegal because people vote for representatives who makes them illegal Yes, but that's not because nobody wants to live in them. It's because a loud subsection of the people that already own single-family homes there don't want them built. You seem to recognize this. That's different from saying "Americans don't want to live in this sort of housing".

542458 5y ago
Ah sorry! That’s fair - I understand what you’re saying now. That said, I’d argue that this is a bit of people wanting their cake and to eat it too. They want a contradiction - to be close to everything (so they can walk places and be in the middle of the action), but also far away from it (so they have privacy and room). So - It’s true to say that people want density, but also true to say they don’t.

imgabe 5y ago

The people who show up to city council meetings and pay attention to local politics are a tiny minority. It is not a stretch to believe that they do not represent what most people want.

xorfish 5y ago

It will become a necessity in a few decades. Single family homes that are up to code don't bring in enough tax revenue to pay for the infrastructure that is necessary to suport them. Same thing goes for strip mals. You can try to run a deficit forever, it is just a really bad idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_SXXTBypIg&list=PLJp5q-R0lZ0_FCUbeVWK6OGLN69ehUTVa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_SXXTBypIg&list=PLJp5q-R0lZ...

UncleMeat 5y ago

Is that because they don't prefer that design, or because protecting the price of their house is so essential to their long term financial stability that they'll block literally any policy, no matter how good, if it threatens their house price?