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They can take precautions by not using iOS devices. The goal isn't to harm Apple, it's to make the knowledge available to those who need it, and have the will t
by crocodiletears 5y ago
They can take precautions by not using iOS devices. The goal isn't to harm Apple, it's to make the knowledge available to those who need it, and have the will to avoid it.
That could mean anything from watching what they put on their iPhone, to putting them down the track of using degoogled android variants on select phones, to ditching cell phones all together depending on their needs.
Knowing that your phone is watching, reporting, and potentially moderating the content in it is information which is valuable in and of itself. Even if it only has utility to a fraction of the population.
We find ourselves in the tightening noose of a latent authoritarian technocratic surveillance society. Few people have anything to fear from it, or the resources to escape it. But some do, and should be given every piece of information that might help them moderate or escape it.
- zepto 5y agoAndroid has been doing this all along, so not using iOS devices will not help. As I said, there are no good solutions.
- crocodiletears 5y ago* drop your phone * don't store images on your phone * use a rom like Graphene, don't install a cloud storage or Google Play Services Those aren't great solutions, but they're options.
- zepto 5y agoThey are options that almost nobody can or will use, so they won’t have any impact. If your goal is to inform a small minority of expert users that they should protect themselves against corporate/government encroachment, by the looks of the comments here, I’d say you’ve already succeeded.
- crocodiletears 5y agoI think you're missing my point. You do your best to inform the majority not because the majority will enact change based on it, but so that the minute and disparate slices of the population for whom that information is relevant but might not otherwise have been exposed to it can access it and perform or investigate whatever actions they deem necessary and economical to mediate the potential threat. This forum is too niche to fulfill that purpose on its own. The mass distribution of the information, and arguments against apple's behavior should be intended to incidentally target relevant niches beyond technically expert circles of which the communicator is unaware. That the argument and resolution of these issues is irrelevant to most of those who will be exposed to it is immaterial.
- zepto 5y agoI notice you edited your top level comment, and it seems like several others to change the meaning of our thread. I’m not missing your point if you are changing your point after I have replied.
- crocodiletears 5y agoFor some reason I couldn't reply to your comment initially, so I put this in a sibling (typos and grammar excepted): I haven't touched any of my comments since they first received a reply. I often touch my comments within a couple minutes of posting in order to correct typos or clarify my intentions, usually by appending a paragraph. But I don't do so without remark once they've become canonical in a thread. Your replies to my comments are as they were written.
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- crocodiletears 5y agoZepto, the Thread won't let me respond directly to yoy, but I haven't touch led any of my comments since they first received a reply. I often touch my comments within a couple minutes of posting in order to correct typos or clarify my intentions, but don't do so without remark once they've become canonical in a thread. Your replies to my threads are as they were written.