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I think it’s exactly “resume driven development” combined with “they don’t know better”. Let’s imagine I am one of those cynic developers and I am faced to work

I think it’s exactly “resume driven development” combined with “they don’t know better”. Let’s imagine I am one of those cynic developers and I am faced to work for 2 companies: - company A is using WordPress to deliver the website OP is talking about. PHP and HTML. I have heard that was very used in the 2000s, but I don’t see any company out there hiring for such skills. Besides all the tech conferences I have attended haven’t talked about PHP at all - company B is using cool Next.js, GraphQL and Amazon serverless. Now we are talking! Last summer I attended to a GraphQL conference and it was awesome! The host seemed very cool and showed us a demo that looked amazing. Besides, I just checked LinkedIn and there are tons of jobs that require Next.js skills. I think it’s better to work for company B; they seem to know their stuff because they use up to date tools. Also, company B pays way more! The decision is straightforward, isn’t it?

the_only_law 5y ago
> company A is using WordPress to deliver the website OP is talking about. PHP and HTML. I have heard that was very used in the 2000s, but I don’t see any company out there hiring for such skills. They exist, but the Wordpress API looks horrendous and you probably won’t be getting the sort of salaries people tend to talk about when it comes to web/software development. These jobs are normally at digital design/marketing agencies or even at large non-tech orgs and separate from other developers. At least, this is my experience.
- yurishimo 5y ago
  It depends on where you look. I started my career by diving headfirst into the WordPress ecosystem almost a decade ago now and there are plenty of strong development roles available if you know where to look. First, someone has to write the software. I'm not sure if you've kept up with the new Gutenberg editor project, but it's a full blown React app and has been for 4(?) years now, with ambitions to take over the entire WordPress admin. Automattic is hiring $$$ for engineers to work on this problem and prototypes that they use internally to build and manage WordPress.com (separate from the Open Source project). Plugin developers are neck deep solving challenging engineering problems for a variety of sites at wildly different scales. Yoast supports the SEO strategy for the 3 page site as well as the 3 million page site. Agencies are building sites for huge companies who can't be bothered to bring that development in house. I work for such an agency. We do deep technical work for a lot of big name companies you have heard of. Some of them are even tech companies! There is interesting work out there, but like so many things, it can often be about who you know to get your foot in the door. There can be a lot of churn, but that probably means the work isn't that great or the pay sucks or a million other excuses that exist with any job. I think Automattic is approaching 2k employees, a huge chunk of them being in engineering. They all aren't working on simple PHP and HTML problems!
908B64B197 5y ago
> Also, company B pays way more! Get them to switch to Kubernetes and then pivot to a FAANG that has infrastructure that requires that level of scaling.

the_only_law 5y ago

> company A is using WordPress to deliver the website OP is talking about. PHP and HTML. I have heard that was very used in the 2000s, but I don’t see any company out there hiring for such skills. They exist, but the Wordpress API looks horrendous and you probably won’t be getting the sort of salaries people tend to talk about when it comes to web/software development. These jobs are normally at digital design/marketing agencies or even at large non-tech orgs and separate from other developers. At least, this is my experience.

yurishimo 5y ago
It depends on where you look. I started my career by diving headfirst into the WordPress ecosystem almost a decade ago now and there are plenty of strong development roles available if you know where to look. First, someone has to write the software. I'm not sure if you've kept up with the new Gutenberg editor project, but it's a full blown React app and has been for 4(?) years now, with ambitions to take over the entire WordPress admin. Automattic is hiring $$$ for engineers to work on this problem and prototypes that they use internally to build and manage WordPress.com (separate from the Open Source project). Plugin developers are neck deep solving challenging engineering problems for a variety of sites at wildly different scales. Yoast supports the SEO strategy for the 3 page site as well as the 3 million page site. Agencies are building sites for huge companies who can't be bothered to bring that development in house. I work for such an agency. We do deep technical work for a lot of big name companies you have heard of. Some of them are even tech companies! There is interesting work out there, but like so many things, it can often be about who you know to get your foot in the door. There can be a lot of churn, but that probably means the work isn't that great or the pay sucks or a million other excuses that exist with any job. I think Automattic is approaching 2k employees, a huge chunk of them being in engineering. They all aren't working on simple PHP and HTML problems!

908B64B197 5y ago

> Also, company B pays way more! Get them to switch to Kubernetes and then pivot to a FAANG that has infrastructure that requires that level of scaling.