> And we should trust them on this because...? More importantly, even if they're doing everything client-side now, why should we trust it won't change in a few

> And we should trust them on this because...? More importantly, even if they're doing everything client-side now, why should we trust it won't change in a few years? If you use an Apple phone, you have no choice but to trust them. They produce your phone and control everything on that phone. Did you trust them before? If so, why and why would you not trust them now with this feature? If you didn't trust them before and don't trust them after this feature, you probably shouldn't use one of their phones. > This situation is not like a fire. A fire in one apartment threatens the entire building (and everyone in it), and it spreads very quickly like started. This is more like installing chemical sensor... I would consider a sensor that detects drugs in apartments a lot more orwellian and I'm pretty sure that something like that would be a lot more controversial than what apple is doing here. They are not adding a feature to catch people that use drugs, just child predators. There is a massive gap between the two and there are zero people that consider allowing child predators to exist is a good idea. I'm also pretty sure that there are zero people that agree that letting apartments burn down is a good idea. > Perhaps people would mind less if they could trust the system will work. But anyone with even little bit of exposure to tech industry already knows that these systems don't work, and data collected is routinely abused. Yep, exactly, this changes nothing really. I hate apple products and I don't use any, but their reputation is the least bad and I trust them more than others. There are horrible monsters in this world, we don't live in a libertarian society, most people don't want to, and a lot of people will be completely fine with sacrificing client side scanning of their pictures to catch those horrible monsters out there. This issue is not black and white/right versus wrong. There are trade offs and it was a judgement call by apple. Everyone has some line where they would be ok with this feature. If it helps avoid the scarring of 1,000 children per year, maybe you don't think its worth it, but there is some line where everyone concedes. I don't really know what is an acceptable amount of horribly scarred children to trade for not having one's pictures scanned on one's phone but if they keep their word and it doesn't turn into an orwellian nightmare, then I would be incredibly grateful for every scumbag they help take off the streets.