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I've been wrestling with this and I don't think it matters. Fascism is here. There is no escape. Eventually anything that connects to a network will be crippl

I've been wrestling with this and I don't think it matters. Fascism is here. There is no escape. Eventually anything that connects to a network will be crippled to the point of uselessness unless you submit to constant monitoring. If you try to avoid it you will be guilty until proven innocent by default. By eventually I mean in 2-3 years.

YokoSix 5y ago
I’m basically with you. Even if i switch to Linux I have to trust the company behind the distro to act in good faith, I have to trust Cryptomator to encrypt my files without backdoors, I have to trust Mozilla to securely save my passwords and so on. On the other hand I don’t want Apple to scan my own files on my own machines. Like… wtf…
- atatatat 5y ago
  > I have to trust Mozilla to securely save my passwords and so on You don't. Pass, CLI tool from Wireguard's Donenfeld, Bitwarden gets good reviews, etc.
- netizen-936824 5y ago
  Why would you save passwords in a browser when there are FOSS utilities like keepass?
- livinginfear 5y ago
  Technically, you don't. The beauty of FOSS software is that you don't need to trust the author. I know that auditing the source code of something as large as a Linux Distro may be prohibitively difficult for one person to do alone. Groups of people do audit them though, and they have found nefarious things in the past, in the case of Google.
Engineering-MD 5y ago
I’m less pessimistic. I see a similar trend but think it will take longer and there will likely be push back, at least in the west. It will become a political issue and then will depend on how the argument plays out with the public. Start early to help set the agenda for pro privacy.
- citizenpaul 5y ago
  Why? Today in only one day we get "law enforcement" installing pre-crime spyware on your apple device. In addition to congress enacting more crypto currency laws.
Buttons840 5y ago
What's the best option for running a totally offline computer? There's like a thousand Linux distros floating around and not one focused on allowing for maintaining and installing software on a 100% offline computer.
- unstatusthequo 5y ago
  Don’t plug it in or connect to wifi. That mitigates most threats, and probably some usefulness. But depends on your use case.
  - Buttons840 5y ago
    I just mean, let's say I want to install some package, and there's like 200 dependancies and still more packages to update. How do I get that one package I really want installed?
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
      You go get those 200 dependencies. It's not easy but not that hard either, just time consuming. Reminds me of trying to get software onto air gapped systems at my past job. I'd have to request each package along with all dependencies.
ksec 5y ago
It will likely take a lot longer than that. Most in the public ( or even in Tech ) wont care much about this scanning. And Apple's performance will be so good they will write this off as a small beep in their history. It will then take another few years of "good intention" before anything really happen. So I say this is going to take a good 5 to 10 years.

YokoSix 5y ago

I’m basically with you. Even if i switch to Linux I have to trust the company behind the distro to act in good faith, I have to trust Cryptomator to encrypt my files without backdoors, I have to trust Mozilla to securely save my passwords and so on. On the other hand I don’t want Apple to scan my own files on my own machines. Like… wtf…

atatatat 5y ago
> I have to trust Mozilla to securely save my passwords and so on You don't. Pass, CLI tool from Wireguard's Donenfeld, Bitwarden gets good reviews, etc.
netizen-936824 5y ago
Why would you save passwords in a browser when there are FOSS utilities like keepass?
livinginfear 5y ago
Technically, you don't. The beauty of FOSS software is that you don't need to trust the author. I know that auditing the source code of something as large as a Linux Distro may be prohibitively difficult for one person to do alone. Groups of people do audit them though, and they have found nefarious things in the past, in the case of Google.

Engineering-MD 5y ago

I’m less pessimistic. I see a similar trend but think it will take longer and there will likely be push back, at least in the west. It will become a political issue and then will depend on how the argument plays out with the public. Start early to help set the agenda for pro privacy.

citizenpaul 5y ago
Why? Today in only one day we get "law enforcement" installing pre-crime spyware on your apple device. In addition to congress enacting more crypto currency laws.

Buttons840 5y ago

What's the best option for running a totally offline computer? There's like a thousand Linux distros floating around and not one focused on allowing for maintaining and installing software on a 100% offline computer.

unstatusthequo 5y ago
Don’t plug it in or connect to wifi. That mitigates most threats, and probably some usefulness. But depends on your use case.
- Buttons840 5y ago
  I just mean, let's say I want to install some package, and there's like 200 dependancies and still more packages to update. How do I get that one package I really want installed?
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
    You go get those 200 dependencies. It's not easy but not that hard either, just time consuming. Reminds me of trying to get software onto air gapped systems at my past job. I'd have to request each package along with all dependencies.

ksec 5y ago

It will likely take a lot longer than that. Most in the public ( or even in Tech ) wont care much about this scanning. And Apple's performance will be so good they will write this off as a small beep in their history. It will then take another few years of "good intention" before anything really happen. So I say this is going to take a good 5 to 10 years.