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I bought a house last year and the first thing I did was remove the Ring video doorbell. But if it hadn't been a company with an Amazon or Google type reputatio

by gdulli 5y ago

I bought a house last year and the first thing I did was remove the Ring video doorbell. But if it hadn't been a company with an Amazon or Google type reputation I'd have at least tried using it for a while.

taeric 5y ago
I would think the odds are much higher of a smaller company either a) selling your data to everyone that they can get money from, or b) just not having the tech skills to keep secure. Note that I am not criticizing you not wanting to use it at all. Just curious that if it was another name, you would have been ok with it.
- JohnFen 5y ago
  I don't know about that. Amazon and Google have a decent track record of being bad about data privacy, and the size of a company by itself says nothing about that company's expertise.
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  I think the point was that with Google or Amazon, you know what their real motive is. With another product, they might actually just be selling a security camera.
  - taeric 5y ago
    This feels tautological. And I've seen too many crap security features in nursery cameras to really have faith in small camera companies. :(
- gdulli 5y ago
  Maybe you're right that the odds that another company could be trusted are low enough not to be a distinction compared to companies I know I don't trust. That said, I mind signing up for throwaway services less because it's easy to use a fake name/email, which is becoming less an option for the major services, who try to enforce real identities and revoke accounts without consequences.
  - taeric 5y ago
    The throw away account point sounds fair. I hadn't necessarily considered that. I was just going off the larger number of password dumps there are out there. Most are from small companies.
amalcon 5y ago
I checked a while back, and there are at least a couple of smart video doorbells that can be made to work with a local IPTV system. I didn't end up doing it[0], but it does seem possible. [0]- I wanted to monitor for deliveries, but COVID kind of trivialized that for a year.

by gdulli 5y ago

taeric 5y ago

I would think the odds are much higher of a smaller company either a) selling your data to everyone that they can get money from, or b) just not having the tech skills to keep secure. Note that I am not criticizing you not wanting to use it at all. Just curious that if it was another name, you would have been ok with it.

JohnFen 5y ago
I don't know about that. Amazon and Google have a decent track record of being bad about data privacy, and the size of a company by itself says nothing about that company's expertise.
throwawayboise 5y ago
I think the point was that with Google or Amazon, you know what their real motive is. With another product, they might actually just be selling a security camera.
- taeric 5y ago
  This feels tautological. And I've seen too many crap security features in nursery cameras to really have faith in small camera companies. :(
gdulli 5y ago
Maybe you're right that the odds that another company could be trusted are low enough not to be a distinction compared to companies I know I don't trust. That said, I mind signing up for throwaway services less because it's easy to use a fake name/email, which is becoming less an option for the major services, who try to enforce real identities and revoke accounts without consequences.
- taeric 5y ago
  The throw away account point sounds fair. I hadn't necessarily considered that. I was just going off the larger number of password dumps there are out there. Most are from small companies.

amalcon 5y ago

I checked a while back, and there are at least a couple of smart video doorbells that can be made to work with a local IPTV system. I didn't end up doing it[0], but it does seem possible. [0]- I wanted to monitor for deliveries, but COVID kind of trivialized that for a year.