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> To help address this, new technology in iOS and iPadOS* will allow Apple to detect known CSAM images stored in iCloud Photos. After reading OP, my understand

> To help address this, new technology in iOS and iPadOS* will allow Apple to detect known CSAM images stored in iCloud Photos. After reading OP, my understanding had been that this update will cause _all_ photos on Apple devices to be scanned. However, the above quote from Apple's statement seems to indicate that only photos uploaded to iCloud Photos are scanned (even though they are technically scanned offline). This doesn't invalidate any of the points people are making, but it does seem the update does not directly affect those of us who never stored our photos “in the cloud”.

dylan604 5y ago
How long until those of use not storing data in the cloud are the guilty ones? At least, the very suspect ones?
conception 5y ago
And this has always been Apple’s stance because of the government. We lock down the phone and don’t let the government in but if you use cloud service that doesn’t have the same rights because it’s not stored on your property. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/apple-drops-plans-icloud-encryption-after-fbi-complain https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/apple-drops-plans-... This sounds like them trying to find a way to encrypt your data and remove the fbi from having a “what about the children excuse”. They scan the image on upload and then store it on iCloud and encrypt it. It’s of course a slippery slope but the FBI has been trying to have back doors everywhere since forever.
- gordon_gee123 5y ago
  In a somewhat judo move, it could end up protecting user security going forward if the FBI has no leverage with pedophile content in iCloud, there’s no argument for a backdoor. I won’t play total corporate shill here but it seems people are jumping to this being the end of times vs a) a way to catch severe abusers of child pornography and b) removing a trump card for future security org strawman arguments
- vmladenov 5y ago
  Exactly this. And this further opens the opportunity for E2EE iCloud Photos where Apple can’t look at your photos on their servers at all. This gives them cover that they’re not hosting illegal content.

dylan604 5y ago

How long until those of use not storing data in the cloud are the guilty ones? At least, the very suspect ones?

conception 5y ago

And this has always been Apple’s stance because of the government. We lock down the phone and don’t let the government in but if you use cloud service that doesn’t have the same rights because it’s not stored on your property. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/apple-drops-plans-icloud-encryption-after-fbi-complain https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/apple-drops-plans-... This sounds like them trying to find a way to encrypt your data and remove the fbi from having a “what about the children excuse”. They scan the image on upload and then store it on iCloud and encrypt it. It’s of course a slippery slope but the FBI has been trying to have back doors everywhere since forever.

gordon_gee123 5y ago
In a somewhat judo move, it could end up protecting user security going forward if the FBI has no leverage with pedophile content in iCloud, there’s no argument for a backdoor. I won’t play total corporate shill here but it seems people are jumping to this being the end of times vs a) a way to catch severe abusers of child pornography and b) removing a trump card for future security org strawman arguments
vmladenov 5y ago
Exactly this. And this further opens the opportunity for E2EE iCloud Photos where Apple can’t look at your photos on their servers at all. This gives them cover that they’re not hosting illegal content.