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> I guess the only pushback is that apple has decided to do it on-device. This is exactly what my problem is. They are using my CPU, battery time and network b

> I guess the only pushback is that apple has decided to do it on-device. This is exactly what my problem is. They are using my CPU, battery time and network bandwidth to do this when they should be using their own resources. I know I can turn off iCloud but I am paying for that and we already have an agreement in place. Honestly, it's the only concrete thing to complain about. Every other complaint is based on a what-if, slippery slope concern. Of course, as per usual, nobody agrees with me here on HN... but that's fine with me because they simply don't reply which lets me know that they don't have any good arguments against my PoV.

jazzyjackson 5y ago
Consider it’s not very interesting to argue with someone who is set in their ways, and the lack of counter argument is a lack of interest, not a superiority of viewpoint. Anyway I agree with you, and have been curious what the neural net hardware on the new iPhone will be used for. Turns out it’s for checking my photo library for child abuse, how futuristic!
- wayneftw 5y ago
  > Consider it’s not very interesting to argue with someone who is set in their ways, and the lack of counter argument is a lack of interest, not a superiority of viewpoint. I have yet to hear a good counter argument though. If I had heard one, I would have changed my mind. So, I don't think I'm set in my ways. (I actually change my mind often when presented with new evidence!) I will always consider downvotes without argumentation to be a lazy way of disagreeing and the people who do that I think are set in their ways. Until I hear otherwise, I will continue to consider my argument as superior. Does anyone really change their mind until they hear a counter to what they already think? I don't think so... I already argued with myself and came up with my opinion on this, so really - I need external arguments to change my mind just like everyone else.
  - stagger87 5y ago
    You're being downvoted for eschewing website guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - wayneftw 5y ago
      Oh yeah? Which one? I kind of doubt it because I've been censored for simply asking very straightforward questions with zero adjectives.
      - mrtranscendence 5y ago
        "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."
        wayneftw 5y ago
        Nah. Maybe that was one from today, but it certainly doesn't apply to the comments I've been referring to. No, what I gather is that many people cannot change their minds when presented with good evidence. Here's one: They complain about "monocultures" as if they're always bad but when I point out that the Linux kernel created a monoculture and the world hasn't imploded, they have no come-back. So they do the only thing that they can do. It's fine with me, I wear it as a badge of pride because I know I'm right whenever that happens.

jazzyjackson 5y ago

Consider it’s not very interesting to argue with someone who is set in their ways, and the lack of counter argument is a lack of interest, not a superiority of viewpoint. Anyway I agree with you, and have been curious what the neural net hardware on the new iPhone will be used for. Turns out it’s for checking my photo library for child abuse, how futuristic!

wayneftw 5y ago
> Consider it’s not very interesting to argue with someone who is set in their ways, and the lack of counter argument is a lack of interest, not a superiority of viewpoint. I have yet to hear a good counter argument though. If I had heard one, I would have changed my mind. So, I don't think I'm set in my ways. (I actually change my mind often when presented with new evidence!) I will always consider downvotes without argumentation to be a lazy way of disagreeing and the people who do that I think are set in their ways. Until I hear otherwise, I will continue to consider my argument as superior. Does anyone really change their mind until they hear a counter to what they already think? I don't think so... I already argued with myself and came up with my opinion on this, so really - I need external arguments to change my mind just like everyone else.
- stagger87 5y ago
  You're being downvoted for eschewing website guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - wayneftw 5y ago
    Oh yeah? Which one? I kind of doubt it because I've been censored for simply asking very straightforward questions with zero adjectives.
    - mrtranscendence 5y ago
      "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."
      - wayneftw 5y ago
        Nah. Maybe that was one from today, but it certainly doesn't apply to the comments I've been referring to. No, what I gather is that many people cannot change their minds when presented with good evidence. Here's one: They complain about "monocultures" as if they're always bad but when I point out that the Linux kernel created a monoculture and the world hasn't imploded, they have no come-back. So they do the only thing that they can do. It's fine with me, I wear it as a badge of pride because I know I'm right whenever that happens.