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This is basically what “communism” is. And I do think communism is the only answer for a world facing a lifetime of declining resources and productivity. Capita
by wayoutthere 5y ago
This is basically what “communism” is. And I do think communism is the only answer for a world facing a lifetime of declining resources and productivity. Capitalism is great for a world based in perpetual growth but under long-term deflationary pressure it will deliver a worse quality of life and be more oppressive than a more collective form of government (and it must be violently oppressive to keep the mass of starving people from threatening the meager profits that will remain).
You’re already seeing this in the younger millennials and Gen Z. We’re smart enough to see what’s coming and more of us are radicalizing every day.
- inpdx 5y agoUnfortunately communism is horrible for individual privacy, liberty, and often life everywhere it's been tried, because humans suck.
- _jal 5y agoI seriously doubt governments emerging from ecological collapse will be as pleasant as one of the 20th century eastern-euro communist governments you're probably thinking of. Surveillance today is already more all-encompassing in democracies than it was in Eastern Germany. Just wait for an emergency that scares people enough, and that becomes weaponized. Individual rights don't last in emergencies.
- wayoutthere 5y agoIf you think communism is bad, wait until you see long-term deflation under capitalism.
- l-_l-_l-_lo_ol 5y agoYeah. It just doesn't cohere with human nature. Capitalism at least manages. Communism seems like something that would happen maybe post-singularity and after scarcity is solved. And we'd be like homogenous spacefarers like the aliens depicted in our stories.
- dead-snake 5y agoDo any of the hundred million murders done in the name of communism give you pause? The stupa of bones and skulls in the killing fields, the pieces of bone and cloth scraps still gradually working their way to the surface, all these years later? No matter how many times I see somebody express eagerness to try it again, it never fails to be baffling and appalling.