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> Since I don't want anyone scanning and deeming my pictures "acceptable" I just stick with Google. Don't Google already do this for images you store in their

> Since I don't want anyone scanning and deeming my pictures "acceptable" I just stick with Google. Don't Google already do this for images you store in their cloud?

rvz 5y ago
yes. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2014/8/5/5970141/how-google-scans-your-gmail-for-child-porn https://www.theverge.com/2014/8/5/5970141/how-google-scans-y... [1] https://torrentfreak.com/google-drive-uses-hash-matching-detect-pirated-content/ https://torrentfreak.com/google-drive-uses-hash-matching-det...
temeritatis 5y ago
Sure, but so does icloud and onedrive. And while i don't like that either, at least one can opt out of it. The only way to realistically opt out of this new system is to not use an iOS device. And i'm just wondering how long until they want to scan your mac as well.
- zimpenfish 5y ago
  > The only way to realistically opt out of this new system is to not use an iOS device. You can just not share the photos to iCloud, the exact same way you'd opt out of it happening on iCloud, no?
  - temeritatis 5y ago
    I suppose you are right about that actually. Makes me wonder why they chose to implement scanning of files destined for icloud (locally) when it's already a feature of icloud?
    - temeritatis 5y ago
      Scratch that. I think i get it now. They now have that capability BUILT IN locally, which might mean it can possibly be used via remote command on-demand (on for example non icloud pictures). Which is kind of scary.
hef19898 5y ago
That's why I hardly have any pictures there. Except stuff I share spontaneously. The vast majority is on local drives. I guess I'll have to do that in general going forward then... EDIT: Just checked, I don't backup pictures from my phone in the cloud. At least that's what my Google camera app insists on.
- hellisothers 5y ago
  So if those things are equal you’re going to switch to an iPhone then?
  - aaomidi 5y ago
    One of them is scanning on device. The other isn't.
    - zimpenfish 5y ago
      > One of them is scanning on device [...] [...] when the photo is about to be uploaded to the cloud. If you don't use iCloud Photos, it won't be scanning your photos.
      - aaomidi 5y ago
        > about to be uploaded to the cloud it's scanning ON your device. This means Apple now has the capability to scan and find files on your device. Which means they have opened the pandoras box of over-reaching government requests.

> Since I don't want anyone scanning and deeming my pictures "acceptable" I just stick with Google. Don't Google already do this for images you store in their cloud?

rvz 5y ago

yes. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2014/8/5/5970141/how-google-scans-your-gmail-for-child-porn https://www.theverge.com/2014/8/5/5970141/how-google-scans-y... [1] https://torrentfreak.com/google-drive-uses-hash-matching-detect-pirated-content/ https://torrentfreak.com/google-drive-uses-hash-matching-det...

temeritatis 5y ago

Sure, but so does icloud and onedrive. And while i don't like that either, at least one can opt out of it. The only way to realistically opt out of this new system is to not use an iOS device. And i'm just wondering how long until they want to scan your mac as well.

zimpenfish 5y ago
> The only way to realistically opt out of this new system is to not use an iOS device. You can just not share the photos to iCloud, the exact same way you'd opt out of it happening on iCloud, no?
- temeritatis 5y ago
  I suppose you are right about that actually. Makes me wonder why they chose to implement scanning of files destined for icloud (locally) when it's already a feature of icloud?
  - temeritatis 5y ago
    Scratch that. I think i get it now. They now have that capability BUILT IN locally, which might mean it can possibly be used via remote command on-demand (on for example non icloud pictures). Which is kind of scary.

hef19898 5y ago

That's why I hardly have any pictures there. Except stuff I share spontaneously. The vast majority is on local drives. I guess I'll have to do that in general going forward then... EDIT: Just checked, I don't backup pictures from my phone in the cloud. At least that's what my Google camera app insists on.

hellisothers 5y ago
So if those things are equal you’re going to switch to an iPhone then?
- aaomidi 5y ago
  One of them is scanning on device. The other isn't.
  - zimpenfish 5y ago
    > One of them is scanning on device [...] [...] when the photo is about to be uploaded to the cloud. If you don't use iCloud Photos, it won't be scanning your photos.
    - aaomidi 5y ago
      > about to be uploaded to the cloud it's scanning ON your device. This means Apple now has the capability to scan and find files on your device. Which means they have opened the pandoras box of over-reaching government requests.