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Calling an idea "pure Garbage" also communicates that you have both understood the idea fully, thought about all aspects and are 100% certain that there is no v

Calling an idea "pure Garbage" also communicates that you have both understood the idea fully, thought about all aspects and are 100% certain that there is no value in the idea. Moreover, you have done all these things things better than the person who came up with the idea. Any reasonable person would admit that the probability that this is true is very small and you just come across as arrogant and frankly of pretty low intelligence (Dunning-Kruger). What you could say is: "I don't understand currently how this is valuable, based on assumption X, Y and Z I think that the idea would not work, why do you think it will?" You may be surprised what you will get as a response, because the person with the idea has obviously spend way more time with it than you, because you were (probably) just told about it. And when it does turn out that you were right (and the idea is not perfect), that means you have taken this opportunity and taught a colleague a valuable lesson. And all this by not saying "his or her idea it total garbage." That's just a way to make people stop telling you their ideas. There is a lot of ground between being arrogant and not having the guts to express your doubts in a respectful way.

majkinetor 5y ago
> Calling an idea "pure Garbage" also communicates that you have bot understood the idea fully, thought about all aspects and are 100% certain that there is no value in the idea. Moreover, you have done all these things things better than the person who came up with the idea. You are overthinking it. Nobody should think like that. > "I don't understand currently how this is valuable, based on assumption X, Y and Z I think that the idea would not work, why do you think it will?" That is similar to trying to kill potential wood fire with a bucket of water. No thanks :) > because the person with the idea has obviously spend way more time with it than you Assumptions. > There is a lot of ground between being arrogant and not having the guts to express your doubts in a respectful way. Its all about how you do it. But if person I work with on successful projects tells me that and even turns his back and go away... I am sure gonna think hard about it. Context is everything. And I can tell you that your idea is total BS and still respect you a lot. You seem to care only about the surface.
- teekert 5y ago
  I wonder where you are from, your attitude would not fly here in the Netherlands. Likewise, I may completely fail to integrate into your culture. Do you realize that compared to you probably many people do “overthink” things? And that that expression is very relative? Or do you want to also claim that your amount of thinking is the exact right amount?
  - majkinetor 5y ago
    > I wonder where you are from, your attitude would not fly here in the Netherlands. Totally irrelevant. But shows that you seem to put people in boxes. > Likewise, I may completely fail to integrate into your culture. Why did you extrapolate? I am talking about myself, not about my nations culture. > Do you realize that compared to you probably many people do “overthink” things? Yes, I realize. I am not in illusion. Yet, that is their problem really. Like I said, my goal in life is NOT to promote Mickey Mouse club. > Or do you want to also claim that your amount of thinking is the exact right amount? Again, you extrapolate, typical for people that suffer from "hurt feelings" problem regarding minor things. I was talking about very specific thing and you introduced entire universe into it. I call this phenomena "random drama". People like you are exactly the type I don't want to work with based on this very short conversation, but I am open minded in case you have a bad day or something :)
    - teekert 5y ago
      It would be very nice if we could meet here again, in 10 years from now :D
      - majkinetor 5y ago
        If that would really be nice, you should set an alarm. Without enforcement of some kind, its really just a bla bla... :) I can promise you I'll be there to answer any questions you might have, unless I am dead (or you). :D
        5y ago

majkinetor 5y ago

> Calling an idea "pure Garbage" also communicates that you have bot understood the idea fully, thought about all aspects and are 100% certain that there is no value in the idea. Moreover, you have done all these things things better than the person who came up with the idea. You are overthinking it. Nobody should think like that. > "I don't understand currently how this is valuable, based on assumption X, Y and Z I think that the idea would not work, why do you think it will?" That is similar to trying to kill potential wood fire with a bucket of water. No thanks :) > because the person with the idea has obviously spend way more time with it than you Assumptions. > There is a lot of ground between being arrogant and not having the guts to express your doubts in a respectful way. Its all about how you do it. But if person I work with on successful projects tells me that and even turns his back and go away... I am sure gonna think hard about it. Context is everything. And I can tell you that your idea is total BS and still respect you a lot. You seem to care only about the surface.

teekert 5y ago
I wonder where you are from, your attitude would not fly here in the Netherlands. Likewise, I may completely fail to integrate into your culture. Do you realize that compared to you probably many people do “overthink” things? And that that expression is very relative? Or do you want to also claim that your amount of thinking is the exact right amount?
- majkinetor 5y ago
  > I wonder where you are from, your attitude would not fly here in the Netherlands. Totally irrelevant. But shows that you seem to put people in boxes. > Likewise, I may completely fail to integrate into your culture. Why did you extrapolate? I am talking about myself, not about my nations culture. > Do you realize that compared to you probably many people do “overthink” things? Yes, I realize. I am not in illusion. Yet, that is their problem really. Like I said, my goal in life is NOT to promote Mickey Mouse club. > Or do you want to also claim that your amount of thinking is the exact right amount? Again, you extrapolate, typical for people that suffer from "hurt feelings" problem regarding minor things. I was talking about very specific thing and you introduced entire universe into it. I call this phenomena "random drama". People like you are exactly the type I don't want to work with based on this very short conversation, but I am open minded in case you have a bad day or something :)
  - teekert 5y ago
    It would be very nice if we could meet here again, in 10 years from now :D
    - majkinetor 5y ago
      If that would really be nice, you should set an alarm. Without enforcement of some kind, its really just a bla bla... :) I can promise you I'll be there to answer any questions you might have, unless I am dead (or you). :D
      - 5y ago