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What about high resolution satellite pollution maps and airstrikes? If the combustion engines or the refineries are not destroyed, they will be used. We could s

What about high resolution satellite pollution maps and airstrikes? If the combustion engines or the refineries are not destroyed, they will be used. We could start slowly with only the dirtiest targets. Doing this now is less aggressive then what will happen after global crop failures.

arcanon 5y ago
Thinking about this more… This depends on electric flight. You cant stop the refineries with uavs powered by their targets product. It may be that electric flight is the cornerstone to emission prevention.
warble 5y ago
Global crop failures is pretty far fetched. Even the IPCC lowers the projections every year. Not a denier in the least, but we have over-estimated the impact in a huge way.
- arcanon 5y ago
  Im sure it wont be like a biblical plague, but the IPCC report that came out moments ago reiterated the 20 year to 1.5 C+ timeline. What matters is if a crop failure hits a nation with few friends and lots of nukes.
  - silon42 5y ago
    yup... nuclear... choose powerplants or weapons.
vimy 5y ago
My plan, from a European perspective, would be for the EU to build a couple hundred new nuclear plants in ten year. France built almost 60 reactors between the seventies and the eighties so I believe it’s certainly possible with more modern tech. So by 2030 the EU has tons of cheap energy. Cheap energy makes the following possible: - carbon capture for negative emissions - desalination plants for drinking water from the sea during heat waves - vertical farms so farming is decoupled from the weather - electric planes, cars and boats - production (and worldwide export) of green hydrogen for industrial use - electrical heating instead of gas Bonus: - export of all the above technologies once EU mastered them Ambitious? Very. Difficult? Yes. Doable? I think so. To me this sounds like a better solution than just trying to live like it’s 1940 again.

arcanon 5y ago

Thinking about this more… This depends on electric flight. You cant stop the refineries with uavs powered by their targets product. It may be that electric flight is the cornerstone to emission prevention.

warble 5y ago

Global crop failures is pretty far fetched. Even the IPCC lowers the projections every year. Not a denier in the least, but we have over-estimated the impact in a huge way.

arcanon 5y ago
Im sure it wont be like a biblical plague, but the IPCC report that came out moments ago reiterated the 20 year to 1.5 C+ timeline. What matters is if a crop failure hits a nation with few friends and lots of nukes.
- silon42 5y ago
  yup... nuclear... choose powerplants or weapons.

vimy 5y ago

My plan, from a European perspective, would be for the EU to build a couple hundred new nuclear plants in ten year. France built almost 60 reactors between the seventies and the eighties so I believe it’s certainly possible with more modern tech. So by 2030 the EU has tons of cheap energy. Cheap energy makes the following possible: - carbon capture for negative emissions - desalination plants for drinking water from the sea during heat waves - vertical farms so farming is decoupled from the weather - electric planes, cars and boats - production (and worldwide export) of green hydrogen for industrial use - electrical heating instead of gas Bonus: - export of all the above technologies once EU mastered them Ambitious? Very. Difficult? Yes. Doable? I think so. To me this sounds like a better solution than just trying to live like it’s 1940 again.