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> "The tiniest risk to me is not worth reducing deadly risk to a hundred thousand strangers." Please elaborate on how an unvaccinated individual poses a deadly

> "The tiniest risk to me is not worth reducing deadly risk to a hundred thousand strangers." Please elaborate on how an unvaccinated individual poses a deadly risk to a hundred thousand vaccinated strangers.

exo-pla-net 5y ago
That was a non-hyperbolic illustration of the attitude you'll find among many anti-vaxxers. The ones who won't even wear a mask, since that would be too much of an imposition on their "freedom". But to address your criticism you've written between the lines, the vaccinated might not die, but they're still at risk for long term complications, were they to contract COVID. And ultimately, the longer this lasts, the more strains will appear, some of which might indeed prove adequate to kill the vaccinated. A thorough campaign of vaccination, on the other hand, would put an end to this disease, just as vaccination put an end to measles, polio, whooping cough, mumps, etc. etc.
- Overton-Window 5y ago
  Israel debunks your theory. You can't vaccinate against COVID. It is now a seasonal disease with us to stay. > A thorough campaign of vaccination, on the other hand, would put an end to this disease, just as vaccination put an end to measles, polio, whooping cough, mumps, etc. etc. How many strains did we see of each of the above within the first 18 months of existence?
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    > Israel debunks your theory Cherry picking. There is plenty of contra evidence to suggest that vaccination is extremely effective at keeping people from getting very ill. > It is now a seasonal disease with us to stay Agreed, though it's clearly not seasonal (a surge in summer?). Unless a particularly lethal variant comes along and whittles down the antivaxxer population significantly.
    - briefcomment 5y ago
      > There is plenty of contra evidence to suggest that vaccination is extremely effective at keeping people from getting very ill. This does not in itself suggest anything about transmissibility, which is what GP is referring to.

exo-pla-net 5y ago

That was a non-hyperbolic illustration of the attitude you'll find among many anti-vaxxers. The ones who won't even wear a mask, since that would be too much of an imposition on their "freedom". But to address your criticism you've written between the lines, the vaccinated might not die, but they're still at risk for long term complications, were they to contract COVID. And ultimately, the longer this lasts, the more strains will appear, some of which might indeed prove adequate to kill the vaccinated. A thorough campaign of vaccination, on the other hand, would put an end to this disease, just as vaccination put an end to measles, polio, whooping cough, mumps, etc. etc.

Overton-Window 5y ago
Israel debunks your theory. You can't vaccinate against COVID. It is now a seasonal disease with us to stay. > A thorough campaign of vaccination, on the other hand, would put an end to this disease, just as vaccination put an end to measles, polio, whooping cough, mumps, etc. etc. How many strains did we see of each of the above within the first 18 months of existence?
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  > Israel debunks your theory Cherry picking. There is plenty of contra evidence to suggest that vaccination is extremely effective at keeping people from getting very ill. > It is now a seasonal disease with us to stay Agreed, though it's clearly not seasonal (a surge in summer?). Unless a particularly lethal variant comes along and whittles down the antivaxxer population significantly.
  - briefcomment 5y ago
    > There is plenty of contra evidence to suggest that vaccination is extremely effective at keeping people from getting very ill. This does not in itself suggest anything about transmissibility, which is what GP is referring to.