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Imagine someone was hired to reduce the problem of child trafficking/exploitation, and are the head of this group at the justice dept. Lets say they have the o

Imagine someone was hired to reduce the problem of child trafficking/exploitation, and are the head of this group at the justice dept. Lets say they have the option to work with private orgs that may have solutions that could walk a fine line between privacy and their dept goals. I'm interested in knowing your perspective on how one should approach achieving these goals.

cwizou 5y ago
Quite frankly I'm not sure this should be the role of one employee of a justice department, so I'm not sure how to answer this ? At the end of the day I think that any such effort should be legislated, in any jurisdiction, and not just rely on the good will that a government (or one of its employee) can garner from private orgs. As to what legislation should look like, this is a complex issue, many countries are making various form of interceptions legal (mostly around terrorism) already. Should a law clearly mandating that any cloud provider scan their users content through some technology like Microsoft's PhotoDNA be passed by various local governments ? I'd much rather see that, personally. Again, my opposition to this is centered around the fact that Apple is doing this on device and selling this as, as you put it, walking a fine line with their privacy stance. While it may have been their original intent, I believe they have opened a door for legislators around the world to ask this technology be extended for other purposes, and given time, they absolutely will. You didn't ask but what I wish Apple did was what everyone else did : scan on their servers, because they can, and not do it on device to keep the illusion that they can't access your photos. Edit : Random link about PhotoDNA being used by Google and Facebook, there are probably better sources : https://petapixel.com/2014/08/08/photodna-lets-google-facebook-others-hunt-down-child-pornography-without-looking-at-your-photos/ https://petapixel.com/2014/08/08/photodna-lets-google-facebo...
- cwizou 5y ago
  Can't edit any more but as provided in another thread by another user, they were already, as I had originally assumed, doing it server side : https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-icloud-photos-for-child-abuse-images/ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-...

cwizou 5y ago

Quite frankly I'm not sure this should be the role of one employee of a justice department, so I'm not sure how to answer this ? At the end of the day I think that any such effort should be legislated, in any jurisdiction, and not just rely on the good will that a government (or one of its employee) can garner from private orgs. As to what legislation should look like, this is a complex issue, many countries are making various form of interceptions legal (mostly around terrorism) already. Should a law clearly mandating that any cloud provider scan their users content through some technology like Microsoft's PhotoDNA be passed by various local governments ? I'd much rather see that, personally. Again, my opposition to this is centered around the fact that Apple is doing this on device and selling this as, as you put it, walking a fine line with their privacy stance. While it may have been their original intent, I believe they have opened a door for legislators around the world to ask this technology be extended for other purposes, and given time, they absolutely will. You didn't ask but what I wish Apple did was what everyone else did : scan on their servers, because they can, and not do it on device to keep the illusion that they can't access your photos. Edit : Random link about PhotoDNA being used by Google and Facebook, there are probably better sources : https://petapixel.com/2014/08/08/photodna-lets-google-facebook-others-hunt-down-child-pornography-without-looking-at-your-photos/ https://petapixel.com/2014/08/08/photodna-lets-google-facebo...

cwizou 5y ago
Can't edit any more but as provided in another thread by another user, they were already, as I had originally assumed, doing it server side : https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-icloud-photos-for-child-abuse-images/ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/01/09/apples-scanning-...