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The first one is embarrassingly stupid. The real solution is a splash screen, which was invented decades ago. Instead, they just lie to you with a non-functiona

The first one is embarrassingly stupid. The real solution is a splash screen, which was invented decades ago. Instead, they just lie to you with a non-functional window rather than lying to you by pretending that your system is doing nothing. Moved back to Chrome today btw. Couldn’t handle YouTube full screen taking 10 seconds to expand and collapse on Firefox. Sure wish Mozilla would hire some competent devs.

kibwen 5y ago
> Instead, they just lie to you with a non-functional window rather than lying to you by pretending that your system is doing nothing. > Moved back to Chrome today btw. I find this amusing, as Chrome was the pioneer of this trick.
nickstinemates 5y ago
What kind of hardware are you running that it takes 10 seconds to do a video full screen? Genuinely curious. My low powered raspberrypi running at 1080p does better than that.
ohgodplsno 5y ago
>Moved back to Chrome today btw. Couldn’t handle YouTube full screen taking 10 seconds to expand and collapse on Firefox. Sure wish Mozilla would hire some competent devs. Right, don't blame Google that purposefully slows down Firefox on half their websites.
cycomanic 5y ago
You're kidding me! Splash screens are the worst solution for this (actually for anything). 1. They often sit on top of everything so I can't continue working on another document for example when opening a large application (I often open apps but continue working on something else) 2. The mess up window management, because the don't have the window class and name of the main app. So when I set window management rules, I have to set an additional on just for the splash screen (made more difficult because it's only there temporarily). 3. The only information they provide is that the app is starting. Well yes I just opened it. Better show an empty window, at least that avoids 1 and 2.
arp242 5y ago
It's not a bad trick, as it presents you the UI. It will take you a bit to actually respond to the change of the window opening and moving your mouse or whatnot to do whatever you want to do, and this "human delay" time can be used for Firefox to load fully. Slash screens, on the other hand, are basically just useless and don't add anything beyond an indication of "the app is loading", but the hourglass mouse cursor (or whatever it is on Windows these days) tells you that already.

kibwen 5y ago

> Instead, they just lie to you with a non-functional window rather than lying to you by pretending that your system is doing nothing. > Moved back to Chrome today btw. I find this amusing, as Chrome was the pioneer of this trick.

nickstinemates 5y ago

What kind of hardware are you running that it takes 10 seconds to do a video full screen? Genuinely curious. My low powered raspberrypi running at 1080p does better than that.

ohgodplsno 5y ago

>Moved back to Chrome today btw. Couldn’t handle YouTube full screen taking 10 seconds to expand and collapse on Firefox. Sure wish Mozilla would hire some competent devs. Right, don't blame Google that purposefully slows down Firefox on half their websites.

cycomanic 5y ago

You're kidding me! Splash screens are the worst solution for this (actually for anything). 1. They often sit on top of everything so I can't continue working on another document for example when opening a large application (I often open apps but continue working on something else) 2. The mess up window management, because the don't have the window class and name of the main app. So when I set window management rules, I have to set an additional on just for the splash screen (made more difficult because it's only there temporarily). 3. The only information they provide is that the app is starting. Well yes I just opened it. Better show an empty window, at least that avoids 1 and 2.

arp242 5y ago

It's not a bad trick, as it presents you the UI. It will take you a bit to actually respond to the change of the window opening and moving your mouse or whatnot to do whatever you want to do, and this "human delay" time can be used for Firefox to load fully. Slash screens, on the other hand, are basically just useless and don't add anything beyond an indication of "the app is loading", but the hourglass mouse cursor (or whatever it is on Windows these days) tells you that already.