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I remember years ago when Firefox Quantum boasted of lofty performance improvements only to get pummelled in just about every benchmark against Chrome. I still

I remember years ago when Firefox Quantum boasted of lofty performance improvements only to get pummelled in just about every benchmark against Chrome. I still check out Phoronix's benchmarks now and again and Firefox is consistently behind. Make whatever excuses you will, but the numbers don't lie.

dblohm7 5y ago
You're putting way too much emphasis on benchmarks vs real-world usage, IMHO.
- hfjtbtbfjfj 5y ago
  I use highly interactive websites, like bitcoin exchanges. They work terribly in Firefox. I don't know if it's because Firefox is slow, or if because devs don't test in Firefox. Either way, even if Firefox is my main browser, I learned that I need to use these sites only in Chrome. YouTube and most other video sites also are very slow in Firefox and many times the other sites don't work at all, video doesn't start, ...
  - dralley 5y ago
    >YouTube and most other video sites also are very slow in Firefox Is Google still using that non-standard virtual DOM API that only works on Chrome, and gets polyfilled on every other browser engine? Some decisions they've made are just blatantly anti-competitive.
    - arp242 5y ago
      This came up a few days ago as well, I and many other people have zero problems with YouTube on Firefox. So dunno why some people report that it's atrociously slow.
  - dblohm7 5y ago
    That's fair, however there is no guarantee that JS is the issue there. (And for anybody interested in actually helping to diagnose and report these issues: https://profiler.firefox.com https://profiler.firefox.com)
roca 5y ago
Quantum worked! Firefox did get a lot faster. It's just that Chrome and Safari are also getting faster. It's an endless race.
maskros 5y ago
I'll gladly suffer a little bit worse rendering performance and have images resized with good rescaling filters than the blurry pixelated mess that Chrome renders whenever the zoom isn't exactly 100%. It's easy to do well on benchmarks when you sacrifice rendering quality. And of course there's no way to even ask Chrome to render images with a decent resampling filter...
hiyer 5y ago
I'm not sure if benchmarks reflect real-world performance with adblockers and other extensions installed. I've been using FF (nightly) as my daily driver on Linux and Mac for years and I don't see any perceptible difference in page loading times compared to Chrome. The only area where I find Chrome noticeably faster is in starting the application itself, but since I rarely close the browser this is not something I see often. Unfortunately corporates seem to be ignoring Firefox entirely - last 2 companies I worked at, their webapp worked only in Chrome. So I'm forced to use Chrome (or Chrome-ish browsers like Brave) also on a daily basis.

dblohm7 5y ago

You're putting way too much emphasis on benchmarks vs real-world usage, IMHO.

hfjtbtbfjfj 5y ago
I use highly interactive websites, like bitcoin exchanges. They work terribly in Firefox. I don't know if it's because Firefox is slow, or if because devs don't test in Firefox. Either way, even if Firefox is my main browser, I learned that I need to use these sites only in Chrome. YouTube and most other video sites also are very slow in Firefox and many times the other sites don't work at all, video doesn't start, ...
- dralley 5y ago
  >YouTube and most other video sites also are very slow in Firefox Is Google still using that non-standard virtual DOM API that only works on Chrome, and gets polyfilled on every other browser engine? Some decisions they've made are just blatantly anti-competitive.
  - arp242 5y ago
    This came up a few days ago as well, I and many other people have zero problems with YouTube on Firefox. So dunno why some people report that it's atrociously slow.
- dblohm7 5y ago
  That's fair, however there is no guarantee that JS is the issue there. (And for anybody interested in actually helping to diagnose and report these issues: https://profiler.firefox.com https://profiler.firefox.com)

roca 5y ago

Quantum worked! Firefox did get a lot faster. It's just that Chrome and Safari are also getting faster. It's an endless race.

maskros 5y ago

I'll gladly suffer a little bit worse rendering performance and have images resized with good rescaling filters than the blurry pixelated mess that Chrome renders whenever the zoom isn't exactly 100%. It's easy to do well on benchmarks when you sacrifice rendering quality. And of course there's no way to even ask Chrome to render images with a decent resampling filter...

hiyer 5y ago

I'm not sure if benchmarks reflect real-world performance with adblockers and other extensions installed. I've been using FF (nightly) as my daily driver on Linux and Mac for years and I don't see any perceptible difference in page loading times compared to Chrome. The only area where I find Chrome noticeably faster is in starting the application itself, but since I rarely close the browser this is not something I see often. Unfortunately corporates seem to be ignoring Firefox entirely - last 2 companies I worked at, their webapp worked only in Chrome. So I'm forced to use Chrome (or Chrome-ish browsers like Brave) also on a daily basis.