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By "doing SAML" do you mean from the server perspective or the client perspective? This simple client library works with .NET 5. https://github.com/jitbit/AspN

By "doing SAML" do you mean from the server perspective or the client perspective? This simple client library works with .NET 5. https://github.com/jitbit/AspNetSaml/ https://github.com/jitbit/AspNetSaml/

mwcampbell 5y ago
If I'm not mistaken, the correct terms are identity provider and service provider, respectively. After all, they're both servers, in the sense that they both receive requests from the other.
- checker 5y ago
  The coolest part imo is that the the servers aren't communicating directly to one another. The client brokers the communication so that both IDP and SP can be on completely different networks (bridged by the client). You probably already knew this but sharing because I find it interesting (and for the edification of those that are unfamiliar).
stouset 5y ago
This client library is nowhere near enough by itself. I could tell this within five seconds, as it's a single source file only a few hundred lines long. It checks that you get a signed assertion back, which is valid, and lets you pull out attributes. That's great, but there are a gajillion tags that can be set within an assertion that have genuine, important security implications and zero of them are handled by this library. If your IdP sends those tags along with the assertion, this library will happily ignore them unless you implement support yourself. And I would bet heavily that approximating zero of this library's users write that support. One trivial example, there's a `<saml:Conditions>` tag. This tag can have all sorts of attributes like `NotBefore` or `NotOnOrAfter` that specify a time period for which the assertion is valid. This library does not do anything to implement support for `<saml:Conditions>` tags at all, so every consumer of this library will happily process assertions as valid even if they're outside of the duration for which the IdP is claiming it's valid. If I get my hands on an assertion at some point in time, I can hold onto it and replay it forever to unsuspecting users of this library. There are other attributes that can set conditions, and there are other tags with implications on whether or not an assertion should be considered valid. None of them are handled. Further, only minimal document validation is performed. The signature is checked, but the Issuer is not. Multiple Issuers can share a signing key, though I suspect actual cases of this are rare. At any rate, there's a billion ways users of this library can blithely chug along with an assertion that isn't valid and shouldn't be trusted, but nobody notices or cares because the happy path works. With authentication, yes it's important that legitimate users are able to sign in. But it's as important that illegitimate authentication attempts are disallowed. And this half is completely forgotten about in literally 100% of the common SAML service provider libraries I've seen in the wild (which is admittedly not 100% of the ones available, just the ones I've looked at). Edit: As @tptacek points out, every user of this library is trivially susceptible to AudienceRestriction authz vulnerabilities. An IdP can include a statement in an assertion that limits it to one intended service provider (e.g., "this document authenticates user FOO for Google service BAR"). Users of this library will simply see "this document authenticates user FOO" and authenticate that user, even though this document was never intended for them. Again it's been awhile so I might be mischaracterizing it a bit but that should be the gist.
- tptacek 5y ago
  This is neat, because every program that actually uses this library probably has the AudienceRestriction authz vulnerability. It doesn't look like it's checking the Response Destination= field either.
  - stouset 5y ago
    I'd wager that most SAML implementations are a rich, bountiful source of severe security bugs. If I ever decided to get into bug bounty programs I'd absolutely start here. FWIW, yep. It has no knowledge of AudienceRestriction: $ grep -i AudienceRestriction Saml.cs $
- tremon 5y ago
  But why would the client need to know about the specific claims and conditions in the IDP assertion? Isn't it the SP that's supposed to verify the claims, not the client? (note that I don't know anything about SAML except how to configure certain applications for it).

mwcampbell 5y ago

If I'm not mistaken, the correct terms are identity provider and service provider, respectively. After all, they're both servers, in the sense that they both receive requests from the other.

checker 5y ago
The coolest part imo is that the the servers aren't communicating directly to one another. The client brokers the communication so that both IDP and SP can be on completely different networks (bridged by the client). You probably already knew this but sharing because I find it interesting (and for the edification of those that are unfamiliar).

stouset 5y ago

This client library is nowhere near enough by itself. I could tell this within five seconds, as it's a single source file only a few hundred lines long. It checks that you get a signed assertion back, which is valid, and lets you pull out attributes. That's great, but there are a gajillion tags that can be set within an assertion that have genuine, important security implications and zero of them are handled by this library. If your IdP sends those tags along with the assertion, this library will happily ignore them unless you implement support yourself. And I would bet heavily that approximating zero of this library's users write that support. One trivial example, there's a `<saml:Conditions>` tag. This tag can have all sorts of attributes like `NotBefore` or `NotOnOrAfter` that specify a time period for which the assertion is valid. This library does not do anything to implement support for `<saml:Conditions>` tags at all, so every consumer of this library will happily process assertions as valid even if they're outside of the duration for which the IdP is claiming it's valid. If I get my hands on an assertion at some point in time, I can hold onto it and replay it forever to unsuspecting users of this library. There are other attributes that can set conditions, and there are other tags with implications on whether or not an assertion should be considered valid. None of them are handled. Further, only minimal document validation is performed. The signature is checked, but the Issuer is not. Multiple Issuers can share a signing key, though I suspect actual cases of this are rare. At any rate, there's a billion ways users of this library can blithely chug along with an assertion that isn't valid and shouldn't be trusted, but nobody notices or cares because the happy path works. With authentication, yes it's important that legitimate users are able to sign in. But it's as important that illegitimate authentication attempts are disallowed. And this half is completely forgotten about in literally 100% of the common SAML service provider libraries I've seen in the wild (which is admittedly not 100% of the ones available, just the ones I've looked at). Edit: As @tptacek points out, every user of this library is trivially susceptible to AudienceRestriction authz vulnerabilities. An IdP can include a statement in an assertion that limits it to one intended service provider (e.g., "this document authenticates user FOO for Google service BAR"). Users of this library will simply see "this document authenticates user FOO" and authenticate that user, even though this document was never intended for them. Again it's been awhile so I might be mischaracterizing it a bit but that should be the gist.

tptacek 5y ago
This is neat, because every program that actually uses this library probably has the AudienceRestriction authz vulnerability. It doesn't look like it's checking the Response Destination= field either.
- stouset 5y ago
  I'd wager that most SAML implementations are a rich, bountiful source of severe security bugs. If I ever decided to get into bug bounty programs I'd absolutely start here. FWIW, yep. It has no knowledge of AudienceRestriction: $ grep -i AudienceRestriction Saml.cs $
tremon 5y ago
But why would the client need to know about the specific claims and conditions in the IDP assertion? Isn't it the SP that's supposed to verify the claims, not the client? (note that I don't know anything about SAML except how to configure certain applications for it).