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This is an abuse my property rights. The device is my property and this activity will be using my CPU, battery time and my network bandwidth. That's the abuse r

This is an abuse my property rights. The device is my property and this activity will be using my CPU, battery time and my network bandwidth. That's the abuse right there. They should just use their own computers to do this stuff.

jdavis703 5y ago
Then you have two choices, disable iCloud photo backups or don’t upgrade to iOS 15. There are plenty of arguments against Apple’s scheme, but this isn’t one of them.
- wayneftw 5y ago
  It's the best argument. Every other argument is based on a slippery slope what-if scenario. Also, I pay for iCloud... but they're not paying me for using my phone and bandwidth. I never agreed to that. They can't just pull the rug out from me after we already have an agreement. I mean they can, because I probably "agreed" to it and some fine print garbage EULA, but those fall apart in a court of law.
samatman 5y ago
Photos is just an app. You can use another photo app, link it to another cloud provider, and be free of the burden. If you use Photos, you're along for the ride, and you've consented to whatever it does. You don't get a line-item veto on code you choose to run, that's never been how it works. For what it's worth, I'm basically with the EFF on this: it looks like the thin end of a wedge, it sucks and I'm not happy about it. But being histrionic doesn't help anything.
- jimbob45 5y ago
  I don’t know how true this is. I don’t see any way to block Photos from viewing the files on this device and I see no reason that it can’t read files from my other apps.
- zionic 5y ago
  No it’s not, it’s the entire OS.
- wayneftw 5y ago
  Histrionics? Did I even use any adjectives? > it looks like the thin end of a wedge, it sucks and I'm not happy about it. But you just said that you can disable it. So, you can be upset about a possible future but I'm the one being melodramatic? That's a good one! You chose to run the OS. So by your logic that gives you no right to complain either. I do understand that I can disable iCloud for my photos and I will do that. We'll see how long that lasts until they decide to tie the next feature and the next one and the next one to something that I don't like. Because that's how this works. Every time they do something that they know people won't like, they simply make it so that you lose access to something else if you decide to stand up for your principles.
8note 5y ago
You chose an apple device because apple knows what's best for you. This is part of the integrated experience

jdavis703 5y ago

Then you have two choices, disable iCloud photo backups or don’t upgrade to iOS 15. There are plenty of arguments against Apple’s scheme, but this isn’t one of them.

wayneftw 5y ago
It's the best argument. Every other argument is based on a slippery slope what-if scenario. Also, I pay for iCloud... but they're not paying me for using my phone and bandwidth. I never agreed to that. They can't just pull the rug out from me after we already have an agreement. I mean they can, because I probably "agreed" to it and some fine print garbage EULA, but those fall apart in a court of law.

samatman 5y ago

Photos is just an app. You can use another photo app, link it to another cloud provider, and be free of the burden. If you use Photos, you're along for the ride, and you've consented to whatever it does. You don't get a line-item veto on code you choose to run, that's never been how it works. For what it's worth, I'm basically with the EFF on this: it looks like the thin end of a wedge, it sucks and I'm not happy about it. But being histrionic doesn't help anything.

jimbob45 5y ago
I don’t know how true this is. I don’t see any way to block Photos from viewing the files on this device and I see no reason that it can’t read files from my other apps.
zionic 5y ago
No it’s not, it’s the entire OS.
wayneftw 5y ago
Histrionics? Did I even use any adjectives? > it looks like the thin end of a wedge, it sucks and I'm not happy about it. But you just said that you can disable it. So, you can be upset about a possible future but I'm the one being melodramatic? That's a good one! You chose to run the OS. So by your logic that gives you no right to complain either. I do understand that I can disable iCloud for my photos and I will do that. We'll see how long that lasts until they decide to tie the next feature and the next one and the next one to something that I don't like. Because that's how this works. Every time they do something that they know people won't like, they simply make it so that you lose access to something else if you decide to stand up for your principles.

8note 5y ago

You chose an apple device because apple knows what's best for you. This is part of the integrated experience