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As a founder of a startup building an authorization product, I can definitely say it's super appealing to build this as a service! It makes for a an easier stor

by samjs 5y ago

As a founder of a startup building an authorization product, I can definitely say it's super appealing to build this as a service! It makes for a an easier story around monetising it. When we were building Oso [1], we were optimising for the best thing for developers, and reached the same conclusion as you... (a) It doesn't make sense to rearchitect your app to move all the data to a separate service, and (b) it's way less complex to build it in the application. That's why we're building Oso as an open source library instead. You get to leave your application data in the application, and don't need to worry about adding an external service to the critical path. [1]: https://www.osohq.com/ https://www.osohq.com/

ezekg 5y ago
Seriously -- this looks *awesome.* Oso's policies look almost exactly like the Pundit policies in my business's Rails app, which is awesome to see. How do you plan on monetizing, if you haven't already?
- samjs 5y ago
  Thank you! Pundit is awesome, they did such a great job with it and we drew a lot of inspiration from it. We're heavily focusing on adoption of the open source product right now for helping developers with application authorization. We do currently charge for things like support + consulting, but in the future we're planning on providing additional functionality through a service that would be more on the operational/security side.
- texasbigdata 5y ago
  Come on, isn’t it just a bit not ideal to go point by point in someone’s yComb announcement thread (which is sort of a happy event because historically a lot did cool things and grew really hot) re: someone else’s biz? Maybe you do a showHN the other company if it’s so differentiated to let these guys just starting out try to put their message out to the world. Sorry didn’t mean to word that negatively btw. On mobile not at home.
  - ezekg 5y ago
    I think it’s pretty normal for this to happen on launch and show HN posts (just like it’s normal for a fellow HN user to tell you that your startup can be cloned in a day.) We’re an odd bunch. :)
    - dang 5y ago
      We don't usually let people change the subject to their own thing in someone else's launch thread. It's boorish. We're a little less active about it in YC launch threads, though, because of the first principle of HN moderation: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20moderate%20less%20%22not%20more%22%20yc&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... That's why I haven't said anything in the places this has happened in today's thread.
      - ezekg 5y ago
        Fair enough. Though I don’t agree that discussing or mentioning a competitor is changing the subject, especially when that competitor addresses some of the issues originally mentioned.

by samjs 5y ago

ezekg 5y ago

Seriously -- this looks *awesome.* Oso's policies look almost exactly like the Pundit policies in my business's Rails app, which is awesome to see. How do you plan on monetizing, if you haven't already?

samjs 5y ago
Thank you! Pundit is awesome, they did such a great job with it and we drew a lot of inspiration from it. We're heavily focusing on adoption of the open source product right now for helping developers with application authorization. We do currently charge for things like support + consulting, but in the future we're planning on providing additional functionality through a service that would be more on the operational/security side.
texasbigdata 5y ago
Come on, isn’t it just a bit not ideal to go point by point in someone’s yComb announcement thread (which is sort of a happy event because historically a lot did cool things and grew really hot) re: someone else’s biz? Maybe you do a showHN the other company if it’s so differentiated to let these guys just starting out try to put their message out to the world. Sorry didn’t mean to word that negatively btw. On mobile not at home.
- ezekg 5y ago
  I think it’s pretty normal for this to happen on launch and show HN posts (just like it’s normal for a fellow HN user to tell you that your startup can be cloned in a day.) We’re an odd bunch. :)
  - dang 5y ago
    We don't usually let people change the subject to their own thing in someone else's launch thread. It's boorish. We're a little less active about it in YC launch threads, though, because of the first principle of HN moderation: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20moderate%20less%20%22not%20more%22%20yc&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... That's why I haven't said anything in the places this has happened in today's thread.
    - ezekg 5y ago
      Fair enough. Though I don’t agree that discussing or mentioning a competitor is changing the subject, especially when that competitor addresses some of the issues originally mentioned.