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> Would you fly with a pilot who never learned the basics of lift and drag? Or hire a builder who didn't understand loads and support? But we call people profes
by Zababa 5y ago
> Would you fly with a pilot who never learned the basics of lift and drag? Or hire a builder who didn't understand loads and support? But we call people professionals who build software with no understanding of computing fundamentals?
Try going to a construction site and ask the people working here about the properties of the materials they use, you're in for a surprise.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y agoHow many of those people are going to describe themselves as engineers though?
- Zababa 5y agoProbably no one because that's not the culture, in software everyone is a engineering because that's what we call people. In France we sometimes call cleaners "technicien de surface", which roughly translate to "surface technician". That's obviously not the kind of technician we usually think about, but in that context it's clear.
- CRConrad 5y agoIn Sweden, we went from "städare" (cleaner) to "lokalvårdare" ("premises caretaker"), and thence -- sarcastically! -- to "sanitetstekniker" ("sanitation technician")... in the 1980s, IIRC.
- rurp 5y agoAh I see why you're getting so much disagreement in this thread. Software job titles have no precise definitions in my experience. It would never occur to me to be astonished that a Software Engineer doesn't know something, while being unfazed by a Software Developer with the same knowledge and experience. ICs most often don't even pick their own titles; the company comes up with whatever they feel like.