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The headlines are marginally misleading. They won’t see actual images but hashes. They probably have a database including hashes of child abuse imagery which th
by randomluck040 5y ago
The headlines are marginally misleading. They won’t see actual images but hashes. They probably have a database including hashes of child abuse imagery which they will compare/try to match to the hashes of the images on your phone. If you take an image of your child’s bathing time to send it to your parents so they can see the little bugger during covid, it most probably won’t be a problem. It’s an important distinction in my opinion and it’s happening on a lot of cloud services already.
The breach of trust and going for the images on my personal device however is not acceptable for me. As a non-US citizen living outside of the US I’d refuse to use any Apple devices anymore. It’s contradicting their own privacy talk as well which, looking at some parts of the world, is evidently “talk” to some degree. Child abuse is probably the worst crime there is, I agree wholeheartedly, but this will create a back door like situation for every government on earth.
- tomas_nort 5y agoIncorrect. “ Messages uses on-device machine learning to analyze image attachments and determine if a photo is sexually explicit.”[0] They do not state this explicitly, but utilizing this technology a mere visit to a website theoretically could result in your home search by the law enforcement of your country. —- [0] - https://www.apple.com/child-safety/ https://www.apple.com/child-safety/
- SN76477 5y agoRight, as I understand it, they are comparing images to known abuse, not scanning images looking for "new" abuse.
- Akronymus 5y agoImages retrieved from abusers devices* At least from my understanding. So there are probably a lot of innocent pictures in the DB.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago>They won’t see actual images but hashes Oh great, even better. /s How many billions of images does apple deal with? There's bound to be a heck of a lot of collisions in there.
- new_realist 5y agoThis has already been considered and addressed via a secret sharing threshold scheme.
- voldacar 5y agofurthermore they are perceptual hashes. its not like you can just defeat it by changing a pixel in all your images
- taylorius 5y agoAnd how will they see these hashes? By uploading a hash of every file on your iphone to a database in the cloud. Oh - don't worry - they promise to delete them all after checking for child porn. Scouts honour.
- olliej 5y agoIt explicitly says the phone downloads the set of hashes and does the computation on the client side. That said I agree that this is going to be hideously abused by every government.