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My coworkers who do want to return (our offices are open on a voluntary basis) want to make everyone else return too because there’s no reason for them to go in

My coworkers who do want to return (our offices are open on a voluntary basis) want to make everyone else return too because there’s no reason for them to go in if there’s only 10 people there. Personally I have friends outside of work, so I haven’t been in.

silicon2401 5y ago
This is the worst thing about people who prefer working in the office: they aren't satisfied by going in, they need to force others to go into the office to keep them company. At least those of us who prefer permanent wfh don't impact other people's decisions. And worst of all are executives and managers who want people in chairs to make them feel important and noticed.
- ghaff 5y ago
  >At least those of us who prefer permanent wfh don't impact other people's decisions. Sort of. Once you have a cohort back in the office, they probably should be meeting over video because having a group in a conference room and a group remote in their home offices doesn't work well. Of course people in the office mostly won't do that and communications will be worse than fully remote.
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  As it doesn't solve what they hate about remote work, i.e. the Zoom and not getting to chat with people. This is why I don't think hybrid will work.
  - sciprojguy 5y ago
    I think you're right, and I think it will motivate those of us who want to work remotely to quit and find companies that have that as their culture and let the "back to the office" folks become more homogenized.
    - MattGaiser 5y ago
      Currently at a hybrid company spread out across multiple offices. So all that happened was that we moved our meetings from our home offices to our open office desks.
      - ghaff 5y ago
        A lot of people come to the office vs. remote question from a place where "office" means that almost everyone you ever interact with is a few dozen steps away. For many of us, it's more like thousands of miles. In fact, if I go into either of the closest offices, I know almost no one there and even fewer who are likely to actually be in the office if I drop in.

silicon2401 5y ago

This is the worst thing about people who prefer working in the office: they aren't satisfied by going in, they need to force others to go into the office to keep them company. At least those of us who prefer permanent wfh don't impact other people's decisions. And worst of all are executives and managers who want people in chairs to make them feel important and noticed.

ghaff 5y ago
>At least those of us who prefer permanent wfh don't impact other people's decisions. Sort of. Once you have a cohort back in the office, they probably should be meeting over video because having a group in a conference room and a group remote in their home offices doesn't work well. Of course people in the office mostly won't do that and communications will be worse than fully remote.
MattGaiser 5y ago
As it doesn't solve what they hate about remote work, i.e. the Zoom and not getting to chat with people. This is why I don't think hybrid will work.
- sciprojguy 5y ago
  I think you're right, and I think it will motivate those of us who want to work remotely to quit and find companies that have that as their culture and let the "back to the office" folks become more homogenized.
  - MattGaiser 5y ago
    Currently at a hybrid company spread out across multiple offices. So all that happened was that we moved our meetings from our home offices to our open office desks.
    - ghaff 5y ago
      A lot of people come to the office vs. remote question from a place where "office" means that almost everyone you ever interact with is a few dozen steps away. For many of us, it's more like thousands of miles. In fact, if I go into either of the closest offices, I know almost no one there and even fewer who are likely to actually be in the office if I drop in.