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N=1, but I now know many people who have been vaccinated that have since been infected, where as up until recently I knew 2 people who got it this entire time (

N=1, but I now know many people who have been vaccinated that have since been infected, where as up until recently I knew 2 people who got it this entire time (I'm in SF). One of these new people is a co-worker who got covid last year, then got Pfizer vaccinated, then got it again and almost was hospitalized. He's 29 and fit, and as far as I know, is not immunocompromised. All the data shows that vaccination provides protection, but with all these new variants coming out (expect more over time), I don't believe herd immunity is any more possible than herd immunity with the flu or common cold.

jMyles 5y ago
> I don't believe herd immunity is any more possible than herd immunity with the flu or common cold. This seems to me to be a very strange thing to say. We know precisely what the pattern is for herd immunity in the case of a coronavirus, because four of them cause what you are calling a "common cold". It's endemic equilibrium. To my knowledge, there is no dispute among experts on this point. So to say that we can't achieve herd immunity because of its similarity to a virus against which we are indeed herd immune is, at best, begging the question. If you have six minutes, this is a very acute description of the endemic equilibrium effect of herd immunity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsmDJYhteQs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsmDJYhteQs