> … famous Caper Jones study… Have you ever considered the validity of that study: which purports to compare programming languages, apparently without consider

> … famous Caper Jones study… Have you ever considered the validity of that study: which purports to compare programming languages, apparently without considering obvious differences in available programming tools? Even back in the late '80s, those Smalltalk implementations provided a very integrated development environment — writing Smalltalk in a simple text editor really isn't the same ;-)