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It seems we've been talking past each other, so as a last ditch effort to reconcile our perspectives - we are in agreement that there is no definitive evidence
by criticaltinker 5y ago
It seems we've been talking past each other, so as a last ditch effort to reconcile our perspectives - we are in agreement that there is no definitive evidence that vaccines are the sole origin of the current variants. In fact it's likely that neutral genetic drift was the origin.
What I provided evidence for, and what we also seem to agree on, is that "They provide a plausible mechanism by which future variants may be caused (or enhanced) by vaccines".
> But simply none have done so by now.
Time will tell - we just don't have the scientific evidence to support a conclusion either way on this yet.
- sudosysgen 5y agoEvery single dominant variant has originated in a country without mass vaccination. There is data. We know that no variants of concern have been caused by vaccines. We all know that if vaccines are not effective enough for herd immunity, then cases of variants due to vaccines are likely to happen. They haven't yet, and it is possible they never happen.
- pbak 5y agoCheck your timelines. Every single variant, dominant or not, originated before vaccines were available...