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> The IRS publishes a quarterly list of the names of people who have renounced their citizenship or given up their green cards, but it only includes people with

> The IRS publishes a quarterly list of the names of people who have renounced their citizenship or given up their green cards, but it only includes people with global assets over $2 million This claim is total crap. The list includes all US citizens who renounce their citizenship, regardless of their net worth. [1] You also cannot renounce your citizenship for tax dodging [2]: > Persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should be aware of the fact that renunciation of U.S. citizenship may have no effect on their U.S. tax or military service obligations (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information). So plan to become rich after renouncing (and without the IRS noticing). [1] https://www.federalregister.gov/quarterly-publication-of-individuals-who-have-chosen-to-expatriate https://www.federalregister.gov/quarterly-publication-of-ind... [2] https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Renunciation-US-Nationality-Abroad.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega...

robocat 5y ago
> You also cannot renounce your citizenship for tax dodging You just pay an exit tax, which is a percentage of your total wealth. The exit tax only applies if your total wealth is over 2 million (or less than that if you haven’t been filing properly). https://americansoverseas.org/en/knowledge-centre/us-taxes-and-liability/exit-tax-us/ https://americansoverseas.org/en/knowledge-centre/us-taxes-a...
claytongulick 5y ago
From [2]: E. TAX & MILITARY OBLIGATIONS /NO ESCAPE FROM PROSECUTION Persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should be aware of the fact that renunciation of U.S. citizenship may have no effect on their U.S. tax or military service obligations (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information). In addition, the act of renouncing U.S. citizenship does not allow persons to avoid possible prosecution for crimes which they may have committed or may commit in the future which violate United States law, or escape the repayment of financial obligations, including child support payments, previously incurred in the United States or incurred as United States citizens abroad. I read that as saying "If you owe the IRS money already, renouncing your citizenship isn't going to get you out of paying it". >So plan to become rich after renouncing (and without the IRS noticing). Do you have any other sources that corroborate this? I've certainly never heard of the IRS coming after someone for money they've earned after renouncing citizenship, except perhaps in complex cases involving international companies.

robocat 5y ago

> You also cannot renounce your citizenship for tax dodging You just pay an exit tax, which is a percentage of your total wealth. The exit tax only applies if your total wealth is over 2 million (or less than that if you haven’t been filing properly). https://americansoverseas.org/en/knowledge-centre/us-taxes-and-liability/exit-tax-us/ https://americansoverseas.org/en/knowledge-centre/us-taxes-a...

claytongulick 5y ago

From [2]: E. TAX & MILITARY OBLIGATIONS /NO ESCAPE FROM PROSECUTION Persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should be aware of the fact that renunciation of U.S. citizenship may have no effect on their U.S. tax or military service obligations (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information). In addition, the act of renouncing U.S. citizenship does not allow persons to avoid possible prosecution for crimes which they may have committed or may commit in the future which violate United States law, or escape the repayment of financial obligations, including child support payments, previously incurred in the United States or incurred as United States citizens abroad. I read that as saying "If you owe the IRS money already, renouncing your citizenship isn't going to get you out of paying it". >So plan to become rich after renouncing (and without the IRS noticing). Do you have any other sources that corroborate this? I've certainly never heard of the IRS coming after someone for money they've earned after renouncing citizenship, except perhaps in complex cases involving international companies.