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> They are using a library of human verified images to compare the hashes I didn't get that from the article, could you point to a source on this?

judge2020 5y ago
Images are submitted by over 1400 organizations[0] like the FBI and NCMEC, although the inner-workings of the database aren’t public and I can’t find a source or confirmation of every image actually being human-verified. The closest is how the "Child Victim Identification Program" helps identify victims in these images. 0: https://www.missingkids.org/theissues/csam#:~:text=Electronic%20Service%20Provider%20(ESP)%20Reporting https://www.missingkids.org/theissues/csam#:~:text=Electroni... (ctrl-f "1,400")
- deleted 5y ago
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- dylan604 5y ago
  Of all of the discussion, my brain has only keyed in on the child porn aspect. It just now clicked that if a missing kid is in a photo (even if not porn), it could help ID the missing kid. Some runaway at the age of 13 gets photographed in a group of other kids just doing teenager things. So even if not running hashes against known porn, it could still be doing facial recognition. Wonder what kind of implications that would have for people in witness protection or battered spouses and other legitimately "disappeared" people.
  - the-dude 5y ago
    Think of the children will erode everything. It is magic.
    - wmeredith 5y ago
      Appeal to emotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
myrandomcomment 5y ago
Directly said in the article: “Users’ photos, converted into a string of numbers through a process known as “hashing”, will be compared with those on a database of known images of child sexual abuse.”
- rovr138 5y ago
  > The system has been trained on 200,000 sex abuse images collected by the US non-profit National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Also from the article. ‘Trained’ being important.

judge2020 5y ago

Images are submitted by over 1400 organizations[0] like the FBI and NCMEC, although the inner-workings of the database aren’t public and I can’t find a source or confirmation of every image actually being human-verified. The closest is how the "Child Victim Identification Program" helps identify victims in these images. 0: https://www.missingkids.org/theissues/csam#:~:text=Electronic%20Service%20Provider%20(ESP)%20Reporting https://www.missingkids.org/theissues/csam#:~:text=Electroni... (ctrl-f "1,400")

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dylan604 5y ago
Of all of the discussion, my brain has only keyed in on the child porn aspect. It just now clicked that if a missing kid is in a photo (even if not porn), it could help ID the missing kid. Some runaway at the age of 13 gets photographed in a group of other kids just doing teenager things. So even if not running hashes against known porn, it could still be doing facial recognition. Wonder what kind of implications that would have for people in witness protection or battered spouses and other legitimately "disappeared" people.
- the-dude 5y ago
  Think of the children will erode everything. It is magic.
  - wmeredith 5y ago
    Appeal to emotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

myrandomcomment 5y ago

Directly said in the article: “Users’ photos, converted into a string of numbers through a process known as “hashing”, will be compared with those on a database of known images of child sexual abuse.”

rovr138 5y ago
> The system has been trained on 200,000 sex abuse images collected by the US non-profit National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Also from the article. ‘Trained’ being important.