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Oh no, it was called a "hoax" for a long time, people were claiming doctors were faking death certificates. Trump said Covid is "their new hoax.” People on face

by ericb 5y ago

Oh no, it was called a "hoax" for a long time, people were claiming doctors were faking death certificates. Trump said Covid is "their new hoax.” People on facebook were saying covid would "disappear" after the election. Don't gaslight people. Some examples: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jason-rapert-coronavirus-hoax-face-mask-arkansas-asa-hutchinson-a9640156.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/congressman-elect-bob-good-calls-covid-19-pandemic-phony-and-mask-wearing-a-hoax/article_d7decb76-3e36-11eb-9d9e-fbd2deb547f5.html https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/congressman-elect-bob-g... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jason-rapert-coronavirus-hoax-face-mask-arkansas-asa-hutchinson-a9640156.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

jwond 5y ago
Trump did not call COVID itself a hoax: https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-ap-fact-check-politics-joe-biden-1eea443cca46df5f18e61b7c34549da2 https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-ap-f...
tekknik 5y ago
Do you have any links that’s not just news about someone calling it a hoax getting the virus, but one of the actual quote of them saying it’s a hoax? Because one of the supporting links you provided shows one quote and it’s not calling the virus a hoax, it’s calling the pandemic a hoax. “It's a serious virus, but it's a virus. It's not a pandemic ... You get it. You stand up against tyranny. Thank you for being here today. Thank you for saying no to the insanity."
- ericb 5y ago
  > it’s calling the pandemic a hoax. I find that distinction odd. The definition of a pandemic is "a disease prevalent over a whole country or the world." Is your claim that they are really saying is that there is a virus, but it is not "prevalent over a country or world"? For the pandemic to be a "hoax", there needs to be either no virus, or it isn't worldwide. That's a strange hill to die on to defend denialism. If you're going to say "well really they are referring to something else when they say the pandemic is a hoax" then you're arguing about what you think they meant, not what they said.
  - tekknik 5y ago
    > For the pandemic to be a "hoax", there needs to be either no virus, or it isn't worldwide. Or it isn’t as widespread or dangerous as being made seem. That’s the other way. And this quote was mad what, July 2020? Further if you look at the stats for global population lost, COVID claimed about 0.06% to 0.1% lives. It’s barely on the list of the top 18 pandemics by deaths. It got beat out by pandemics which we have no or incomplete data on. So while you may think the world is ending, it’s really not. The media once again attempting to control people and keep them indoors and vaccinated has caused mass panic.
    - ericb 5y ago
      In the US, more people died than US soldiers in WWII, which in any common parlance was "dangerous." Rationalize harder. Ready, Go!
      - tekknik 5y ago
        Cause viruses and war are the same right? WWII also took 3% of the world population. So using your own example COVID is less deadly than WWII. But go ahead and cause more panic. It seems to be working well right? /s

by ericb 5y ago

jwond 5y ago

Trump did not call COVID itself a hoax: https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-ap-fact-check-politics-joe-biden-1eea443cca46df5f18e61b7c34549da2 https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-ap-f...

tekknik 5y ago

Do you have any links that’s not just news about someone calling it a hoax getting the virus, but one of the actual quote of them saying it’s a hoax? Because one of the supporting links you provided shows one quote and it’s not calling the virus a hoax, it’s calling the pandemic a hoax. “It's a serious virus, but it's a virus. It's not a pandemic ... You get it. You stand up against tyranny. Thank you for being here today. Thank you for saying no to the insanity."

ericb 5y ago
> it’s calling the pandemic a hoax. I find that distinction odd. The definition of a pandemic is "a disease prevalent over a whole country or the world." Is your claim that they are really saying is that there is a virus, but it is not "prevalent over a country or world"? For the pandemic to be a "hoax", there needs to be either no virus, or it isn't worldwide. That's a strange hill to die on to defend denialism. If you're going to say "well really they are referring to something else when they say the pandemic is a hoax" then you're arguing about what you think they meant, not what they said.
- tekknik 5y ago
  > For the pandemic to be a "hoax", there needs to be either no virus, or it isn't worldwide. Or it isn’t as widespread or dangerous as being made seem. That’s the other way. And this quote was mad what, July 2020? Further if you look at the stats for global population lost, COVID claimed about 0.06% to 0.1% lives. It’s barely on the list of the top 18 pandemics by deaths. It got beat out by pandemics which we have no or incomplete data on. So while you may think the world is ending, it’s really not. The media once again attempting to control people and keep them indoors and vaccinated has caused mass panic.
  - ericb 5y ago
    In the US, more people died than US soldiers in WWII, which in any common parlance was "dangerous." Rationalize harder. Ready, Go!
    - tekknik 5y ago
      Cause viruses and war are the same right? WWII also took 3% of the world population. So using your own example COVID is less deadly than WWII. But go ahead and cause more panic. It seems to be working well right? /s