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Except the difference is nudity is natural and sometimes instrumental - for washing, bathroom use, and medical care for example - and denying basic healthcare t

Except the difference is nudity is natural and sometimes instrumental - for washing, bathroom use, and medical care for example - and denying basic healthcare to your children is not, unless you plan to be instrumental in your child's demise and that comes natural to you.

skinkestek 5y ago
I've taken all vaccines I've been offered including BioNTech/Pfizer but: carefulness regarding new medical procedures is also completely natural. We aren't robots and we need to cut one another some slack. Different persons being mire or less risk averse is even a strength for society.
- vimacs2 5y ago
  I don't disagree there, I'm just pointing out that there is a difference between the two cases.
  - leereeves 5y ago
    Your argument was wrong, though, because those vaccines aren't being given to children anyway.
    - vimacs2 5y ago
      Reading back now, I realize my comment was indeed just dumb and borne from not properly reading the OP's comment and thinking of the anti-vaxxer movement in general, not the actually rational aversion to untested ones during the Covid crisis. I would have editing a disclaimer on it but it's too late.
  - skinkestek 5y ago
    Here is what you wrote: > and denying basic healthcare to your children is not, unless you plan to be instrumental in your child's demise and that comes natural to you. You wrote that in reply to someone clearly not talking about vaccines generally but the new vaccines specifically.
Markoff 5y ago
COVID vaccines are not basic child healthcare, heck they are not even approved for children under 12 and in many European countries not for children at all also not sure how necessary is to take nude photos of children unless you are doctor and yes I am parent with 2 kids taking care about your health and not willing to risk long term effects of unproven stuff someone is putting in your body seems perfectly natural to me

skinkestek 5y ago

I've taken all vaccines I've been offered including BioNTech/Pfizer but: carefulness regarding new medical procedures is also completely natural. We aren't robots and we need to cut one another some slack. Different persons being mire or less risk averse is even a strength for society.

vimacs2 5y ago
I don't disagree there, I'm just pointing out that there is a difference between the two cases.
- leereeves 5y ago
  Your argument was wrong, though, because those vaccines aren't being given to children anyway.
  - vimacs2 5y ago
    Reading back now, I realize my comment was indeed just dumb and borne from not properly reading the OP's comment and thinking of the anti-vaxxer movement in general, not the actually rational aversion to untested ones during the Covid crisis. I would have editing a disclaimer on it but it's too late.
- skinkestek 5y ago
  Here is what you wrote: > and denying basic healthcare to your children is not, unless you plan to be instrumental in your child's demise and that comes natural to you. You wrote that in reply to someone clearly not talking about vaccines generally but the new vaccines specifically.

Markoff 5y ago

COVID vaccines are not basic child healthcare, heck they are not even approved for children under 12 and in many European countries not for children at all also not sure how necessary is to take nude photos of children unless you are doctor and yes I am parent with 2 kids taking care about your health and not willing to risk long term effects of unproven stuff someone is putting in your body seems perfectly natural to me