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I'll join the other poster in asking for a Linux version (foolish demand I know) or at least making it possible to run Affinity on Proton/Wine. Also, please fo

I'll join the other poster in asking for a Linux version (foolish demand I know) or at least making it possible to run Affinity on Proton/Wine. Also, please for the love of God implement paragraph wide justification. Without it Publisher is a toy (in my opinion) and not implementing it is unacceptably amateurish when it has been implemented, and open source, since 1981 [1]. [1] http://www.eprg.org/G53DOC/pdfs/knuth-plass-breaking.pdf http://www.eprg.org/G53DOC/pdfs/knuth-plass-breaking.pdf

indymike 5y ago
> Linux version (foolish demand I know) I'll buy all three Affinity apps again with a Linux or Proton version. I lug around a Mac just so I can run Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher and click OK in Xcode (or some other trivial can't-be-automated thing) from time to time. Incidentally, I do pay for quite a bit of Linux software (JetBrains, WingIDE, DaVinci Resolve)... and that is before counting all the games that I'll be buying via Steam now that I can run via Proton. Yes, I'm probably in the minority in the Linux world, but Linux (KDE desktop) is easily the most productive for me and great software is actually worth paying for. Plus, the current direction towards total lockdown of MS and Apple is going to create a lot more users just like me.
- scns 5y ago
  Well, maybe if everyone drops them an email... affinity@serif.com
  - pqb 5y ago
    There are hundreds of "Linux requests" (most popular [0]) on their forums and they were very resistant to give although a small chance to make it happen. [0]: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/47502-affinity-products-for-linux/ https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/47502-affi...
    - jstummbillig 5y ago
      The community asking for it is a good marker for a passionate community. Affinity being resistant about implementing it is a good marker for a functional company.
- pqb 5y ago
  > I'll buy all three Affinity apps again with a Linux or Proton version. Same here. I already own Affinity apps for Mac and on Windows but I don't see anything wrong with buying next Designer or Photo for Linux (with or without Wine/Proton). However, I know it is massive effort and still very complex errand to deliver even comparable experience on Linux as on Windows. I do still keep fingers crossed for Serif but it is frantic demand.
- xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
  > Yes, I'm probably in the minority in the Linux world, but Linux (KDE desktop) is easily the most productive for me Funny, I used to loathe KDE but I ended up with it by default after trying out NixOS for the first time and... I haven't left. It's great. Just fabulous. I haven't felt the need to go back to a tiling WM yet, which I still find surprising...
  - dantondwa 5y ago
    Same here. I used to use GNOME once upon a time, then switched to macOS, then after 5 years to Windows, and since this spring I’ve gone back to Linux, specifically Fedora with KDE. I find KDE to be fantastic. I’ve got most ergonomic setup I’ve ever used, there is really nothing to complain about it, including fantastic hidpi support. I’m really happy.
    - ajklsdhfniuwehf 5y ago
      everyone ditched gnome as soon as their design head started to mandate "copy apple on everything, even the dumb things" i wasn't even too sad with them shipping features missing 90% of the old functionality while they got the code right, but doing that just to copy apple frivolous design choices was just too much.
  - liotier 5y ago
    > Funny, I used to loathe KDE but I ended up with it by default after trying out NixOS for the first time and... I haven't left. It's great. Just fabulous. Same here: I was a long-time xfce user but, over the years, I found myself using more and more KDE applications. For a friend I setup a Debian with the default KDE environment... I ended up using that myself - with not too many tweaks I just love it: the defaults are sane and if I want to change anything I can ! Has KDE changed that much or have I changed ?
    - dantondwa 5y ago
      I think KDE has changed that much. A lot of work has gone into fixing the small things and making the default saner. The solid technology behind it + all the usability fixes they’ve been working on in the last years have made it really shine. I think it’s the culmination of years of work, and I think it’s finally paying off (also the fact that Valve is officially working on KDE will give it even more momentum).
dantondwa 5y ago
Yes, I came to write this. If anyone from Affinity is reading this, I really hope they take notice of the demand for the Affinity suite on Linux. It’s really the missing bit on Linux. I own the suite on Mac and Windows and I’ll gladly buy it a third time for Linux. Otherwise, at least better Wine support will be very welcome. I’d even take part in a Kickstarter fund raise for this.
commoner 5y ago
Proton/Wine support would be a great improvement over not being able to run Affinity software on Linux at all. Definitely worth another purchase if Linux is supported in some way. They could try crowdfunding development if they're not sure about the demand.
- fgonzag 5y ago
  Seriously, I'd drop $100 for the effort without promises or guarantees. Just because I feel their software is amazing value and I'd love to have it on Linux.
blue_rog 5y ago
Thank you for the reference for "Breaking Paragraphs into Lines". I attempted to implement something like this (quite naively) a few years ago; to read something in detail makes me realize the impressive lengths people go to in order to do something as 'simple' as breaking paragraphs into lines and further realize how little I appreciate 'tiny' things like this.
120photo 5y ago
I got PhotoLine running under Wine. The interface is not as "sexy" but the capabilities of PL are great and in many ways better than PS or Affinity Photo. PL has been around almost as long as PS but is not as known. I believe two brother from Germany maintain the software. It is much better than GIMP too.
mrtksn 5y ago
How is the hostility situation of Linux users towards non-OSS software?
- TomasBaneUK 5y ago
  Pragmatic people install them in a VM or inside Flatpaks and make the permissions more restrictive. Dual boot between two encrypted isolated distros is also possible. It doesn't seem so overkill when you have to use not only proprietary software but also things like npm and containers. Many pretend they don't use proprietary software while they still install what could be called malware directly from Steam. We're all forced to use proprietary software inside our CPUs and other hardware anyway. It would be easier to fight back if more people used and supported free software and hardware to move society to a better place. By the way I'm not implying that being open source or not has something to do with software quality.
- eitland 5y ago
  There are a few that is very hostile it seems. Most of us just want a choice between good desktops, 30% faster compiles, cli commands (e.g. git) that completes in milliseconds instead of seconds etc. Most reasonable persons, even the more free software loving ones are happy to run 50 - 75% free rather than 100% proprietary :-)
- anigbrowl 5y ago
  I'm OK with it unless security is the top priority.
- BashiBazouk 5y ago
  Another question: with Pantone support could there be an oss version?
zamalek 5y ago
> at least making it possible to run Affinity on Proton/Wine. I would be overjoyed even it was unofficial/at-your-own-risk. They previously stated on their forums that they were worried that they wouldn't be able to deliver the experience that they wanted[1]... or recoup costs. [1]: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/626-affinity-for-linux/&tab=comments#comment-5271 https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/626-affini...
knowuh 5y ago
I am sure the ROI would be Amazing!
knowuh 5y ago
A consequence of using block-justified texts is creating gaping chasms or rivers of white between words, that looks amateurish.
- RobertKerans 5y ago
  It's not a consequence of that, what you're describing is a consequence of poor justification algorithms + no manual justification. For books, generally want block justified text without rivers, that's why you need a good tweakable algorithm, which is what GP is complaining about. Lack of that makes it problematic for use in professional publishing work Even with very good justification tools (InDesign's being the obvious example, as it's a direct competitor) a professional end result still requires a lot of manual work -- adjusting tracking and kerning, actually editing the text. But without that solid basis it's entirely slow manual work.

indymike 5y ago

> Linux version (foolish demand I know) I'll buy all three Affinity apps again with a Linux or Proton version. I lug around a Mac just so I can run Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher and click OK in Xcode (or some other trivial can't-be-automated thing) from time to time. Incidentally, I do pay for quite a bit of Linux software (JetBrains, WingIDE, DaVinci Resolve)... and that is before counting all the games that I'll be buying via Steam now that I can run via Proton. Yes, I'm probably in the minority in the Linux world, but Linux (KDE desktop) is easily the most productive for me and great software is actually worth paying for. Plus, the current direction towards total lockdown of MS and Apple is going to create a lot more users just like me.

scns 5y ago
Well, maybe if everyone drops them an email... affinity@serif.com
- pqb 5y ago
  There are hundreds of "Linux requests" (most popular [0]) on their forums and they were very resistant to give although a small chance to make it happen. [0]: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/47502-affinity-products-for-linux/ https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/47502-affi...
  - jstummbillig 5y ago
    The community asking for it is a good marker for a passionate community. Affinity being resistant about implementing it is a good marker for a functional company.
pqb 5y ago
> I'll buy all three Affinity apps again with a Linux or Proton version. Same here. I already own Affinity apps for Mac and on Windows but I don't see anything wrong with buying next Designer or Photo for Linux (with or without Wine/Proton). However, I know it is massive effort and still very complex errand to deliver even comparable experience on Linux as on Windows. I do still keep fingers crossed for Serif but it is frantic demand.
xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
> Yes, I'm probably in the minority in the Linux world, but Linux (KDE desktop) is easily the most productive for me Funny, I used to loathe KDE but I ended up with it by default after trying out NixOS for the first time and... I haven't left. It's great. Just fabulous. I haven't felt the need to go back to a tiling WM yet, which I still find surprising...
- dantondwa 5y ago
  Same here. I used to use GNOME once upon a time, then switched to macOS, then after 5 years to Windows, and since this spring I’ve gone back to Linux, specifically Fedora with KDE. I find KDE to be fantastic. I’ve got most ergonomic setup I’ve ever used, there is really nothing to complain about it, including fantastic hidpi support. I’m really happy.
  - ajklsdhfniuwehf 5y ago
    everyone ditched gnome as soon as their design head started to mandate "copy apple on everything, even the dumb things" i wasn't even too sad with them shipping features missing 90% of the old functionality while they got the code right, but doing that just to copy apple frivolous design choices was just too much.
- liotier 5y ago
  > Funny, I used to loathe KDE but I ended up with it by default after trying out NixOS for the first time and... I haven't left. It's great. Just fabulous. Same here: I was a long-time xfce user but, over the years, I found myself using more and more KDE applications. For a friend I setup a Debian with the default KDE environment... I ended up using that myself - with not too many tweaks I just love it: the defaults are sane and if I want to change anything I can ! Has KDE changed that much or have I changed ?
  - dantondwa 5y ago
    I think KDE has changed that much. A lot of work has gone into fixing the small things and making the default saner. The solid technology behind it + all the usability fixes they’ve been working on in the last years have made it really shine. I think it’s the culmination of years of work, and I think it’s finally paying off (also the fact that Valve is officially working on KDE will give it even more momentum).

dantondwa 5y ago

Yes, I came to write this. If anyone from Affinity is reading this, I really hope they take notice of the demand for the Affinity suite on Linux. It’s really the missing bit on Linux. I own the suite on Mac and Windows and I’ll gladly buy it a third time for Linux. Otherwise, at least better Wine support will be very welcome. I’d even take part in a Kickstarter fund raise for this.

commoner 5y ago

Proton/Wine support would be a great improvement over not being able to run Affinity software on Linux at all. Definitely worth another purchase if Linux is supported in some way. They could try crowdfunding development if they're not sure about the demand.

fgonzag 5y ago
Seriously, I'd drop $100 for the effort without promises or guarantees. Just because I feel their software is amazing value and I'd love to have it on Linux.

blue_rog 5y ago

Thank you for the reference for "Breaking Paragraphs into Lines". I attempted to implement something like this (quite naively) a few years ago; to read something in detail makes me realize the impressive lengths people go to in order to do something as 'simple' as breaking paragraphs into lines and further realize how little I appreciate 'tiny' things like this.

120photo 5y ago

I got PhotoLine running under Wine. The interface is not as "sexy" but the capabilities of PL are great and in many ways better than PS or Affinity Photo. PL has been around almost as long as PS but is not as known. I believe two brother from Germany maintain the software. It is much better than GIMP too.

mrtksn 5y ago

How is the hostility situation of Linux users towards non-OSS software?

TomasBaneUK 5y ago
Pragmatic people install them in a VM or inside Flatpaks and make the permissions more restrictive. Dual boot between two encrypted isolated distros is also possible. It doesn't seem so overkill when you have to use not only proprietary software but also things like npm and containers. Many pretend they don't use proprietary software while they still install what could be called malware directly from Steam. We're all forced to use proprietary software inside our CPUs and other hardware anyway. It would be easier to fight back if more people used and supported free software and hardware to move society to a better place. By the way I'm not implying that being open source or not has something to do with software quality.
eitland 5y ago
There are a few that is very hostile it seems. Most of us just want a choice between good desktops, 30% faster compiles, cli commands (e.g. git) that completes in milliseconds instead of seconds etc. Most reasonable persons, even the more free software loving ones are happy to run 50 - 75% free rather than 100% proprietary :-)
anigbrowl 5y ago
I'm OK with it unless security is the top priority.
BashiBazouk 5y ago
Another question: with Pantone support could there be an oss version?

zamalek 5y ago

> at least making it possible to run Affinity on Proton/Wine. I would be overjoyed even it was unofficial/at-your-own-risk. They previously stated on their forums that they were worried that they wouldn't be able to deliver the experience that they wanted[1]... or recoup costs. [1]: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/626-affinity-for-linux/&tab=comments#comment-5271 https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/626-affini...

knowuh 5y ago

I am sure the ROI would be Amazing!

knowuh 5y ago

A consequence of using block-justified texts is creating gaping chasms or rivers of white between words, that looks amateurish.

RobertKerans 5y ago
It's not a consequence of that, what you're describing is a consequence of poor justification algorithms + no manual justification. For books, generally want block justified text without rivers, that's why you need a good tweakable algorithm, which is what GP is complaining about. Lack of that makes it problematic for use in professional publishing work Even with very good justification tools (InDesign's being the obvious example, as it's a direct competitor) a professional end result still requires a lot of manual work -- adjusting tracking and kerning, actually editing the text. But without that solid basis it's entirely slow manual work.