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The disgruntled nurses I know don't want more money anywhere near as much as they want things like lunch and bathroom breaks. Money can't buy happiness, but no

The disgruntled nurses I know don't want more money anywhere near as much as they want things like lunch and bathroom breaks. Money can't buy happiness, but not being able to take care of your basic bodily needs can absolutely buy unhappiness.

zepto 5y ago
> Money can't buy happiness No but not having enough will make you unhappy, and keep you trapped there.
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dividefuel 5y ago
My spouse is just starting her first RN job. As part of the onboarding, an administrator/HR person called and strongly suggested that she sign a paper waiving one of her 30 minute lunch periods. Even though the paper says "I am not being coerced", it's pretty clear that signing it is necessary for getting the job.
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- sjdrc 5y ago
  How can a document like that even be legal? What reason would a worker have to willingly sign away their rights?
skt5 5y ago
> Money can't buy happiness Usually when someone says this to me, I respond with "then you're spending your money poorly". What I mean to say is that more money buys more flexibility and options, which should lead to more opportunities to leave unhappy situations or at least add more happy situations. Note that this is a generalization so there are plenty of edge cases to counter this.
- mumblemumble 5y ago
  There's also this distressing hump in the money/happiness curve. More money leads to a greater sense of well being up to a point where you meet your basic sufficiency needs, and then, beyond that, the correlation goes inverse. My guess is that there is a very strong diminishing returns effect to the utility of money, and that, at some point, other effects start to dominate. Perhaps what's happening with health care workers is a case study for what's going on there.
  - jxidjhdhdhdhfhf 5y ago
    Can you cite a source on that? The studies I've seen have shown that happiness increases more slowly after a certain income but the slope never goes negative. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2021/02/07/new-study-shows-that-more-money-buys-more-happiness/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom...
  - skt5 5y ago
    My intuition is on the money vs happiness curve, the first derivative is always positive unless “your spending it wrong”. The second derivative might be positive for lower values of money but probably has negative values that might highlight a diminishing returns effect. I should have qualified in my parent post that it assumes all else being equal.
- pavel_lishin 5y ago
  Having money buys flexibility and options. Merely making slightly more money doesn't.
  - skt5 5y ago
    What’s the difference between having a little bit more money and making a little bit more money? My guess is it’s how it is spent.

zepto 5y ago

> Money can't buy happiness No but not having enough will make you unhappy, and keep you trapped there.

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dividefuel 5y ago

My spouse is just starting her first RN job. As part of the onboarding, an administrator/HR person called and strongly suggested that she sign a paper waiving one of her 30 minute lunch periods. Even though the paper says "I am not being coerced", it's pretty clear that signing it is necessary for getting the job.

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sjdrc 5y ago
How can a document like that even be legal? What reason would a worker have to willingly sign away their rights?

skt5 5y ago

> Money can't buy happiness Usually when someone says this to me, I respond with "then you're spending your money poorly". What I mean to say is that more money buys more flexibility and options, which should lead to more opportunities to leave unhappy situations or at least add more happy situations. Note that this is a generalization so there are plenty of edge cases to counter this.

mumblemumble 5y ago
There's also this distressing hump in the money/happiness curve. More money leads to a greater sense of well being up to a point where you meet your basic sufficiency needs, and then, beyond that, the correlation goes inverse. My guess is that there is a very strong diminishing returns effect to the utility of money, and that, at some point, other effects start to dominate. Perhaps what's happening with health care workers is a case study for what's going on there.
- jxidjhdhdhdhfhf 5y ago
  Can you cite a source on that? The studies I've seen have shown that happiness increases more slowly after a certain income but the slope never goes negative. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2021/02/07/new-study-shows-that-more-money-buys-more-happiness/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom...
- skt5 5y ago
  My intuition is on the money vs happiness curve, the first derivative is always positive unless “your spending it wrong”. The second derivative might be positive for lower values of money but probably has negative values that might highlight a diminishing returns effect. I should have qualified in my parent post that it assumes all else being equal.
pavel_lishin 5y ago
Having money buys flexibility and options. Merely making slightly more money doesn't.
- skt5 5y ago
  What’s the difference between having a little bit more money and making a little bit more money? My guess is it’s how it is spent.