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The warning: "Don't buy Apple products, their locked down hardware and walled garden is going to be trouble" People: Ignore warning, buy iPhone You: "Don't bu
by Bjartr 5y ago
The warning: "Don't buy Apple products, their locked down hardware and walled garden is going to be trouble"
People: Ignore warning, buy iPhone
You: "Don't buy Apple products" isn't an action.
- JKCalhoun 5y ago> Don't buy Apple products... What is the follow-on? Which products should we buy then? Any phone other than Apple's? None?
- Bjartr 5y agoYes! Buying a different phone or even forgoing a feature phone are both valid alternatives. Just because the alternatives are unappealing doesn't mean "There are no alternatives" or "The warning wasn't actionable" into true statements.
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- dijit 5y agoThe alternative is? Google phone? This is not an alternative if you care about privacy. The allegory presented sounds insane (growing your own food) but honestly if you're not rolling your own flashed ROM on a 'droid then your privacy is dead already; I understand throwing all your eggs in one basket is a terrible idea but Apples walled garden and heavy sandboxing was at least somewhat protective.
- kop316 5y agoOne option is getting a Phone that has an unlocked bootloader so one can load their own ROM without Goople Play Services. I have a Pixel 3a with LineageOS, no Google Play. I'm pretty happy with it. While the Pinephone isn't perfect yet, I would argue it will be able to replace Android/iOS in a few months.
- dijit 5y ago> so one can load their own ROM without Goople Play Services Yeah this is the mobile phone equivalent of growing your own vegetables. I get it, I'm a techy, but until the day is here where rooted phones aren't treated like a special case: for most people if they buy a droid then it's actually significantly worse for their personal privacy than an Apple device. I don't want that to be the case, but until the pine phone is here and starts being a reasonable alternative; that's how it is.
- kop316 5y ago> Yeah this is the mobile phone equivalent of growing your own vegetables. Sadly...I know. The unfortunate thing is my recommendation for my family/friends for a phone is an iPhone, because it really is the best for security/privacy today, and they at least support their phones for much longer than an Android. > I don't want that to be the case, but until the pine phone is here and starts being a reasonable alternative; that's how it is. Fortunately, I think that time is coming sooner than later.
- throw0101a 5y ago> I don't want that to be the case, but until the pine phone is here and starts being a reasonable alternative; that's how it is. Someone will have to buy the pine phone when it is not a reasonable alternative to support the effort and keep the ball rolling.
- arvinsim 5y agoSo you are giving up and essentially handing over Apple your rights? It's no surprise why we got to this point.
- dijit 5y agoWho are you talking to? The literal millions of people who see no choice other than Android? Because that's who I'm speaking for.
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- xvilka 5y agoAlternative is crowdfunding to create something like Pinephone, etc.
- 2xpress 5y agoLike Teracube and Light Phone. For ppl in Europe I recommend Fairphone -- probably the best phone there is right now.
- Bjartr 5y agoBuying a different phone or even forgoing a feature phone entirely are both valid alternatives. Just because the alternatives are unappealing doesn't make "There are no alternatives" or "The warning wasn't actionable" into true statements.