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> The risk of not getting the vaccine vastly outweighs any potential risk of getting the vaccine. Read again and think a little about this statement. First, it

by effie 5y ago

> The risk of not getting the vaccine vastly outweighs any potential risk of getting the vaccine. Read again and think a little about this statement. First, it is biased: risk of getting vaccinated is "potential", but the other risk is not denominated this way. Second, this risk comparison is obviously not true for every person. In fact, both risks are individual and depend on several factors and weights of those factors, and those weights depend on person's values. You didn't mention data you are basing this statement on and for which combination of those factors and weights it is true. Also, besides the risk analysis, getting the vaccine is a political decision for many people. Most people I know got it to avoid repression from state and to get preferential treatment from authorities when travelling. Other people refuse the vaccine because they don't trust the source, the evangelist and the administrator. You can't mandate or dictate people's political stances nor medical treatments. That's a definition of totalitarian power. > Meanwhile thousands more die from not getting the vaccine. You meant to say some people died because they refused the vaccine and then got killed by COVID. Yes this is sad but those people died as free people.

nicoburns 5y ago
The fact that people see getting the vaccine as a political decision is part of the problem IMO. Now that you put it like that, I suspect that one reason why uptake is relatively high here in the UK is that it's generally seen as a medical decision here, and we have much higher trust in ou medical professionals than we do in our politicians.
- effie 5y ago
  I think a big part of that uptake is the fact that UK has its own Astrazeneca vaccine with which Oxford was involved and this makes people in UK trust it more than people in other countries trust mRNA vaccines from the foreign big pharma and their government. The other big part of the uptake maybe the way the government and institutions behave and communicate with the public. This latter is horrible in continental Europe.

by effie 5y ago

nicoburns 5y ago

The fact that people see getting the vaccine as a political decision is part of the problem IMO. Now that you put it like that, I suspect that one reason why uptake is relatively high here in the UK is that it's generally seen as a medical decision here, and we have much higher trust in ou medical professionals than we do in our politicians.

effie 5y ago
I think a big part of that uptake is the fact that UK has its own Astrazeneca vaccine with which Oxford was involved and this makes people in UK trust it more than people in other countries trust mRNA vaccines from the foreign big pharma and their government. The other big part of the uptake maybe the way the government and institutions behave and communicate with the public. This latter is horrible in continental Europe.