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So it appears that we can infer the following.. You can tell some lies to an vaccine skeptic to make them yield to vaccination. And amusingly the reverse appe

by forcry 5y ago

So it appears that we can infer the following.. You can tell some lies to an vaccine skeptic to make them yield to vaccination. And amusingly the reverse appear to be true as well, that you can tell some facts to a pro-vaxxer to convert them to an vaccine skeptic..

relax88 5y ago
Yeah. I’ve actually had moments of skepticism. I’m fully vaccinated (as is my entire family) but had a family member get hospitalized by myocarditis after their 2nd Pfizer dose. When I did the math of COVID-19 prevalence in our area (cases were very low at the time) and rate of myocarditis for his age group it was actually a higher probability for him to get hospitalized from myocarditis as a vaccine side effect than from COVID-19 at that time (young athletic males seem to get this way more than other demographics). Now… when you take into account higher cases, SIR models, the Delta variant, and that myocarditis is easy to treat it’s clearly the lower risk option longer term. There is also the ethical part where it’s the right thing to do for your neighbour and Countrymen. My point is that it is not always clear to everyone, especially those who may not have the skills to make sense of academic research. I’ve even gotten sucked down the hole of “what happens when an mRNA lipid nanoparticle crosses the blood-brain barrier?”, which is quite interesting.
- karim79 5y ago
  > I’ve even gotten sucked down the hole of “what happens when an mRNA lipid nanoparticle crosses the blood-brain barrier?”, which is quite interesting. Would you happen to have any links/references to share on that subject? I'd be quite interested to read, especially since having received my first mRNA jab a week ago.
  - relax88 5y ago
    I didn’t bookmark any unfortunately but the tl;dr: conclusion I came to is that the amount of mRNA LNPs injected is so small, and so little of it will make it to your brain that it’s unlikely to cause any problems. To my knowledge there haven’t been any observed side effects that would point to this being a problem either. Plus there is tons of evidence that COVID-19 wreaks havoc on the brain so there is that too.

by forcry 5y ago

relax88 5y ago

Yeah. I’ve actually had moments of skepticism. I’m fully vaccinated (as is my entire family) but had a family member get hospitalized by myocarditis after their 2nd Pfizer dose. When I did the math of COVID-19 prevalence in our area (cases were very low at the time) and rate of myocarditis for his age group it was actually a higher probability for him to get hospitalized from myocarditis as a vaccine side effect than from COVID-19 at that time (young athletic males seem to get this way more than other demographics). Now… when you take into account higher cases, SIR models, the Delta variant, and that myocarditis is easy to treat it’s clearly the lower risk option longer term. There is also the ethical part where it’s the right thing to do for your neighbour and Countrymen. My point is that it is not always clear to everyone, especially those who may not have the skills to make sense of academic research. I’ve even gotten sucked down the hole of “what happens when an mRNA lipid nanoparticle crosses the blood-brain barrier?”, which is quite interesting.

karim79 5y ago
> I’ve even gotten sucked down the hole of “what happens when an mRNA lipid nanoparticle crosses the blood-brain barrier?”, which is quite interesting. Would you happen to have any links/references to share on that subject? I'd be quite interested to read, especially since having received my first mRNA jab a week ago.
- relax88 5y ago
  I didn’t bookmark any unfortunately but the tl;dr: conclusion I came to is that the amount of mRNA LNPs injected is so small, and so little of it will make it to your brain that it’s unlikely to cause any problems. To my knowledge there haven’t been any observed side effects that would point to this being a problem either. Plus there is tons of evidence that COVID-19 wreaks havoc on the brain so there is that too.