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Again, as I said: Stallman allegedly has a pattern of troubling behaviour going back decades. Not just troubling words, either, but actual behaviour. Stallman'

by orra 5y ago

Again, as I said: Stallman allegedly has a pattern of troubling behaviour going back decades. Not just troubling words, either, but actual behaviour. Stallman's crass words about consent, re sex-traffic teenagers, was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

pydry 5y ago
>Stallman allegedly has a pattern of troubling behaviour going back decades The vagueness in your comment mirrors the vagueness in the stories that tend to accuse Stallman of "troubling behavior". They do mention a couple of examples of things that could imply sexual harassment if you squint (e.g. that business card) but what the examples really tend to show when you look at them independently of the hit piece they inhabit is that stallman is kind of cringey. This is what happens when you make powerful enemies. This is how you do character assassination. Hell, there were stories like this about Bill Gates too.
- orra 5y ago
  > vagueness > could imply sexual harassment [only] if you squint > character assassination Complete hyperbole. As I said in another thread, threatening suicide at somebody because they won't date you is neither "vague" nor "cringey": it's straight up emotional abuse and coercion.
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  - pydry 5y ago
    His recollection: "Betsy S met me at a lunch around 40 years ago. I am sure her recounting of her recollections is sincere, but she must have misunderstood the last thing I said to her. She said she didn't want an acquaintance with me. That no, on top of so many noes from others, impelled me to express despair; she seems to have misconstrued that as a demand. Betsy S, I regret that this misunderstanding caused you distress. I never intended to demand anything of you. I only ever wished you well. " I could see the argument in calling this emotional abuse if there was a pattern of doing this, especially to partners, but there isn't. It's almost always used as a form of emotional blackmail in toxic relationships or with children. It is effective in that context and a common form of abuse. What this looks more like is the cynical exploitation of a singular expression of, yes, cringey vulnerability from 40 years in the past used to try and cancel RMS with a grand old witch hunt. Now that's emotional abuse.

by orra 5y ago

pydry 5y ago

>Stallman allegedly has a pattern of troubling behaviour going back decades The vagueness in your comment mirrors the vagueness in the stories that tend to accuse Stallman of "troubling behavior". They do mention a couple of examples of things that could imply sexual harassment if you squint (e.g. that business card) but what the examples really tend to show when you look at them independently of the hit piece they inhabit is that stallman is kind of cringey. This is what happens when you make powerful enemies. This is how you do character assassination. Hell, there were stories like this about Bill Gates too.

orra 5y ago
> vagueness > could imply sexual harassment [only] if you squint > character assassination Complete hyperbole. As I said in another thread, threatening suicide at somebody because they won't date you is neither "vague" nor "cringey": it's straight up emotional abuse and coercion.
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- pydry 5y ago
  His recollection: "Betsy S met me at a lunch around 40 years ago. I am sure her recounting of her recollections is sincere, but she must have misunderstood the last thing I said to her. She said she didn't want an acquaintance with me. That no, on top of so many noes from others, impelled me to express despair; she seems to have misconstrued that as a demand. Betsy S, I regret that this misunderstanding caused you distress. I never intended to demand anything of you. I only ever wished you well. " I could see the argument in calling this emotional abuse if there was a pattern of doing this, especially to partners, but there isn't. It's almost always used as a form of emotional blackmail in toxic relationships or with children. It is effective in that context and a common form of abuse. What this looks more like is the cynical exploitation of a singular expression of, yes, cringey vulnerability from 40 years in the past used to try and cancel RMS with a grand old witch hunt. Now that's emotional abuse.