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This is the general tone that Lamas justifies the Buddhism invasion: Tibet was feudal, people were slaves, Lamas liberated them, now everybody is happy. One par

• hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
  I don't think that any lama claims what you say. The assassination if Langdarma took place 1200 years ago. But all this is not the point - it's obvious that there were many bad things going on before the Chinese invasion. The Chinese never address things like "you invaded a country, you were killing people, putting them in prison, starving to death". Instead, they turn to arguments like: "But lamas were very bad, they were abusing ordinary people". Of course the past system was bad and abusive. The problem is, the current system is so much worse that ordinary people prefer to self-immolate than to live in it.
  • est 5y ago
    > But all this is not the point Why? I thought you were arguing with your colleague whether DL is good or bad? > it's obvious that there were many bad things going on before the Chinese invasion So yeah, Tibet was in bad shape when DL reigned. That's the whole point. > so much worse that ordinary people prefer to self-immolate than to live in it If you look up news closely, you'd see that only privileged Lamas self-immolate.
    • hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
      "Privileged lamas"... Seems like they are not so privileged after all. https://freetibet.org/about/self-immolation-protests https://freetibet.org/about/self-immolation-protests
      • est 5y ago
        just search their name you'd see they were monks. Tibetan/Mongoila monks were a grand scheme invented by the Chinese to sterialize tribes with their no-marriable policy, for a local family only 1 or 2 boys are allowed to breed and labor, rest of siblings were all destined to be Lamas in remote places. Tibetan and Mongolia's working & total population dropped dramatically after the school of Gelug took power and no longer pose a threat to east & central asia. The title of Dalai & Panchen were invented and installed directly by the Qing rulers (Jampalyang) to manipulate the Gelug hierarchy. 14th DL is a guy gone rogue and sold Tibet to East India Company.
  • beaunative 5y ago
    I don't think the current system is so much worse. It's just not possible. DL is an actual dictator in a world without news coverage, just imagine. That's also not just the CCP's argument, it's the same argument for most modern day states that's desposed of monarch. Self-immolate is an act of religious fervert, it would be out of the ordinary to reason with. Generally, I think most people simply don't kill themselves like that, unless they believe there is something to be gained after death. The same reason for suicidal bombing. For people who are generally not happy or find live unbearable, they wouldn't kill themselves using those kinds of excruciating and painful methods, unless of course, they were trying to achieve something, which are most likely religious or it just doesn't make sense.