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I always thought the biggest impediment to drove dileveries would be a shotgun blast in certain parts of the country. I guess multiple cams, and very quiet dro

I always thought the biggest impediment to drove dileveries would be a shotgun blast in certain parts of the country. I guess multiple cams, and very quiet drones, would solve the problem. I'm actually for drones. The sound of delivery vans delivering one package seems wasteful? Unless you are the driver?

GravitasFailure 5y ago
Oh, there's no shortage of possible hazards for drones. Ever see a hawk take one down?
SahAssar 5y ago
If the cameras are streaming back video that would be a very easy legal case against the person shooting. I'm guessing after it happens a few times and people see the repercussions they would stop.
- imwillofficial 5y ago
  Or a a legal case FOR the person shooting. Having a floating spy cam in my yard is shotgun worthy.
  - nannal 5y ago
    If you requested it and were informed of when and where from it was coming could wouldn't be able to make that argument.
  - talliedthoughts 5y ago
    This could be an interesting case - how high do property rights extend into the sky above your land? Obviously planes are allowed to fly over, even small private planes like Cessnas that fly pretty low. Is it actually the filming aspect that makes it "illegal"? What if the guy in the Cessna has a GoPro pointing out the window? What if it's not regular filming but say thermal imaging, do the same rules still apply?
    - FuriouslyAdrift 5y ago
      In the US at least, I beleive the current legal definition is 500 ft in uncongested areas and 1000 ft elsewhere. Above that is considered "public highway" in federal law. US v. Causby is the only ruling I could find (that was 83 ft).https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/328/256/ https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/328/256/
      - ghaff 5y ago
        I think there may have been one or two other--possibly state level--cases. It's pretty ambiguous but loose consensus seems to be that you probably have property rights up to 400-500 feet. On rural land, a drone at 50 feet would seem to be fair game for skeet practice.
    - imwillofficial 5y ago
      This actually happened, I believe the guy was in the wrong because the drone wasn’t on his property or something. The details are hazy.
- dwighttk 5y ago
  Assuming there is a camera pointed in the right direction
- MisterTea 5y ago
  Just like the all the successful legal cases against all those porch package thieves caught on amazons ring cameras.
  - SahAssar 5y ago
    I'm assuming that if you destroy amazons property they will be a lot more litigious than if you steal some guys headphones.
- JohnFen 5y ago
  > people see the repercussions they would stop. I doubt it. I think it's more likely that they'll do the shooting from cover so they can't be seen by the drone.
mabbo 5y ago
> I always thought the biggest impediment to drove dileveries would be a shotgun blast in certain parts of the country. Bezos, in an all hands meeting was asked about that. "If we reach a point where people shooting down drones is our biggest barrier, I'll call the project a success".

GravitasFailure 5y ago

Oh, there's no shortage of possible hazards for drones. Ever see a hawk take one down?

SahAssar 5y ago

If the cameras are streaming back video that would be a very easy legal case against the person shooting. I'm guessing after it happens a few times and people see the repercussions they would stop.

imwillofficial 5y ago
Or a a legal case FOR the person shooting. Having a floating spy cam in my yard is shotgun worthy.
- nannal 5y ago
  If you requested it and were informed of when and where from it was coming could wouldn't be able to make that argument.
- talliedthoughts 5y ago
  This could be an interesting case - how high do property rights extend into the sky above your land? Obviously planes are allowed to fly over, even small private planes like Cessnas that fly pretty low. Is it actually the filming aspect that makes it "illegal"? What if the guy in the Cessna has a GoPro pointing out the window? What if it's not regular filming but say thermal imaging, do the same rules still apply?
  - FuriouslyAdrift 5y ago
    In the US at least, I beleive the current legal definition is 500 ft in uncongested areas and 1000 ft elsewhere. Above that is considered "public highway" in federal law. US v. Causby is the only ruling I could find (that was 83 ft).https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/328/256/ https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/328/256/
    - ghaff 5y ago
      I think there may have been one or two other--possibly state level--cases. It's pretty ambiguous but loose consensus seems to be that you probably have property rights up to 400-500 feet. On rural land, a drone at 50 feet would seem to be fair game for skeet practice.
  - imwillofficial 5y ago
    This actually happened, I believe the guy was in the wrong because the drone wasn’t on his property or something. The details are hazy.
dwighttk 5y ago
Assuming there is a camera pointed in the right direction
MisterTea 5y ago
Just like the all the successful legal cases against all those porch package thieves caught on amazons ring cameras.
- SahAssar 5y ago
  I'm assuming that if you destroy amazons property they will be a lot more litigious than if you steal some guys headphones.
JohnFen 5y ago
> people see the repercussions they would stop. I doubt it. I think it's more likely that they'll do the shooting from cover so they can't be seen by the drone.

mabbo 5y ago

> I always thought the biggest impediment to drove dileveries would be a shotgun blast in certain parts of the country. Bezos, in an all hands meeting was asked about that. "If we reach a point where people shooting down drones is our biggest barrier, I'll call the project a success".