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I keep seeing an argument put forward that we should mandate getting vaccinated (and feel righteous about it!) to prevent the rise of a new scary variant that m

by ctoth 5y ago

I keep seeing an argument put forward that we should mandate getting vaccinated (and feel righteous about it!) to prevent the rise of a new scary variant that might bypass the vaccines. This argument, of course, is made by innumerate people who do not realize that the number of US holdouts is utterly dwarfed by the number of people who want a vaccine but can't get it no matter what. If we are worried about a new scary variant slowly burbling away in the lungs of the unvaccinated, preparing to jump out and get us good vaccinated folk, should we not be focusing our energy on... I donno, actually trying to help people who want it get vaccinated instead of forcing people who are reluctant? My $0.02 from a fully vaccinated person who still thinks people should be able to make their own decisions about their bodily autonomy.

ctoth 5y ago
Thinking about this more, maybe we should literally go so far as doing a last call for vaccines. Okay, if you want them, we'll only have them for another month and then we're sending all our supply to Mexico or whatever! Far more likely to actually use them that way, and it'll get those who are holding out for no real reason to step up and get them.
mcbuilder 5y ago
Why not both? I assume your talking internationally about those that desire the vaccine, and domestically in the US for those who are reluctant. Can't we donate vaccines overseas while still pushing those who are here to get the vaccine?
pb7 5y ago
You can walk into any pharmacy and get vaccinated. We are long past demand exceeding supply. That's why vaccination rate graphs are plateauing and the numbers for 1-shot and fully vaccinated are converging.
- ctoth 5y ago
  Yes, here, in the US! According to the WHO, we're gonna need something like 11 billion vaccines[0] to cover the planet, however. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/world/vaccine-coronavirus-global-stalls.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/world/vaccine-coronavirus...

by ctoth 5y ago

ctoth 5y ago

Thinking about this more, maybe we should literally go so far as doing a last call for vaccines. Okay, if you want them, we'll only have them for another month and then we're sending all our supply to Mexico or whatever! Far more likely to actually use them that way, and it'll get those who are holding out for no real reason to step up and get them.

mcbuilder 5y ago

Why not both? I assume your talking internationally about those that desire the vaccine, and domestically in the US for those who are reluctant. Can't we donate vaccines overseas while still pushing those who are here to get the vaccine?

pb7 5y ago

You can walk into any pharmacy and get vaccinated. We are long past demand exceeding supply. That's why vaccination rate graphs are plateauing and the numbers for 1-shot and fully vaccinated are converging.

ctoth 5y ago
Yes, here, in the US! According to the WHO, we're gonna need something like 11 billion vaccines[0] to cover the planet, however. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/world/vaccine-coronavirus-global-stalls.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/world/vaccine-coronavirus...