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That's way too big of a hypothetical to make any of the statistics derived from it worth anything.

civilized 5y ago
Bruenig is just being humorously understated here. Obviously more educated people are more likely to know history. Come on.
- Talanes 5y ago
  I'm not sure how that's obvious? School isn't where I learned about the Tuskegee experiment, so why would I assume that's the primary way people learn about it? That's a claim that actually needs some data to back it up.
  - civilized 5y ago
    I think this is pretty straightforwardly what any social scientist would expect, but if we must have data, see Figure 4 of https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29.8077 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29...
    - Talanes 5y ago
      >I think this is pretty straightforwardly what any social scientist would expect And statements like that are why I don't trust any social science without digging a few layers deeper than the data that's initially presented.
- anigbrowl 5y ago
  I think you're overlooking the fact that black people are much more likely to know about it than white people, and that it's not a function of educational level alone.
  - civilized 5y ago
    No, I'm not overlooking that supposed fact, which also isn't a fact. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29.8077 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29...
    - crackercrews 5y ago
      Interesting link! But FYI it does look like general awareness of the experiments is higher in the Black population. > With approximately 75% of Blacks and 60% of Whites in this study self-reporting awareness of TSS (i.e., they self-reported having heard of the TSS) What isn't higher is accurate information about what was actually done in the experiments. This is interesting to know. But mere awareness of the experiments may be driving attitudes regardless of whether the specifics that people believe to be true are actually false.

Bruenig is just being humorously understated here. Obviously more educated people are more likely to know history. Come on.

Talanes 5y ago
I'm not sure how that's obvious? School isn't where I learned about the Tuskegee experiment, so why would I assume that's the primary way people learn about it? That's a claim that actually needs some data to back it up.
- civilized 5y ago
  I think this is pretty straightforwardly what any social scientist would expect, but if we must have data, see Figure 4 of https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29.8077 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29...
  - Talanes 5y ago
    >I think this is pretty straightforwardly what any social scientist would expect And statements like that are why I don't trust any social science without digging a few layers deeper than the data that's initially presented.
anigbrowl 5y ago
I think you're overlooking the fact that black people are much more likely to know about it than white people, and that it's not a function of educational level alone.
- civilized 5y ago
  No, I'm not overlooking that supposed fact, which also isn't a fact. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29.8077 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29...
  - crackercrews 5y ago
    Interesting link! But FYI it does look like general awareness of the experiments is higher in the Black population. > With approximately 75% of Blacks and 60% of Whites in this study self-reporting awareness of TSS (i.e., they self-reported having heard of the TSS) What isn't higher is accurate information about what was actually done in the experiments. This is interesting to know. But mere awareness of the experiments may be driving attitudes regardless of whether the specifics that people believe to be true are actually false.