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You're wrong but don't seem willing to have your mind changed.

by 55555 5y ago

newacct583 5y ago
Change my mind then. Like every other sentence I wrote has a funny '?' symbol at the end. That's your cue to provide information.
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- 55555 5y ago
  Fine. But remember, you can still hate Facebook and it can still be a crappy platform even though you're wrong about the explicit claims you've been arguing. > And it only guesses that I'll enjoy clearly commercial content and not any of the community stuff related to things I actually interact with? Really? That seems oddly suspicious. Yeah, they're kinda "dumb." These companies have incredible engineers but they still screw up really simple things. > I gotta say, I don't believe you. I've never once seen a Suggested link that wasn't to some kind of obvious click farm. This is clickbait content created by professional view arbitrage firms who use natural virality to make a buck. They are making money, but they aren't buying ads, they're selling them on their own websites. > Never once. If you want to make a technical argument that Facebook drives revenue via other means than direct payments, then that seems reasonably likely (if deliberately misleading). This is exactly the argument. And it's not an argument, it's a fact, assuming you aren't just missing the "sponsored/ad" labels on Facebook.com. Facebook is promoting this crap because most people are likely to click it and they are optimizing for engagement so people come back and click more, including on ads. > If you want to argue that these folks aren't spending money that ends up in Facebook's pocket in order for Facebook to put their content in front of my eyeballs... then I'm just going to laugh at you, sorry. This is not what was said and nobody intelligent would say this. (Strawman argument) > If Facebook didn't see benefit from putting this garbage in front of me that I never click on, then why would it be putting garbage in front of me that I never click on? Clearly Facebook wants me to click on it! Their algorithm hasn't figured you out as well as it has others. They promote low quality clickbait content BECAUSE it leads to "engagement" and clicks. They want you to like being on Facebook, and constant clicking = addiction. But these are not ads, unless you're missing an obvious "sponsored/ads" label.
  - newacct583 5y ago
    >> If you want to make a technical argument that Facebook drives revenue via other means than direct payments, then that seems reasonably likely (if deliberately misleading). > This is exactly the argument. OK, then as mentioned I find that a specious and silly claim. My words above were that Suggested links constitute "Paid Content", and it seems you agree.
    - nl 5y ago
      Here the argument is that "suggested content" is popular, and FB showing it gets people to use their platform more, which in turn lets FB expose them to more (paid) ads. That's different to non-direct payments for the "suggested content", which is what you seem to believe is happening.
      - 55555 5y ago
        Yeah, I give up.
teknopaul 5y ago
Bollocks. I am not wrong that Facebook recommends not one single item of content that is relevant or from and friend of mine. Below is direct from Facebook. Apart from anything else its embarrassing if you pay these guys thinking they are the best at targeted ads. You telling me this content is by the peers of a 46 year old IT pro and not paid content with a straight face! nunca deberíamos juzgar con las aperencias! World (sic) most dangerous road SHE WAS AWAKE wake up babe Entran en la casa de una señora mayor y esto es lo que encontraron ESTA CHICA NO SABE LO QUE ESPERA the fire changed inside of the banana! she put spray paint in the TOILET Esto es muy feo que te pase!! que jovencita tan inteligente prepárate tomates como este la próxima vez ¿Instinto o el destino? Mira lo que hizo a esta! Que triste THIS!!! INCREDIBLE These pets are absolute divas! You can be stupid, but not that stupid. It's not a conspiracy. I don't need any research tool to tell me none of that was not written by my "friends".

You're wrong but don't seem willing to have your mind changed.

by 55555 5y ago

You're wrong but don't seem willing to have your mind changed.

Change my mind then. Like every other sentence I wrote has a funny '?' symbol at the end. That's your cue to provide information.

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55555 5y ago
Fine. But remember, you can still hate Facebook and it can still be a crappy platform even though you're wrong about the explicit claims you've been arguing. > And it only guesses that I'll enjoy clearly commercial content and not any of the community stuff related to things I actually interact with? Really? That seems oddly suspicious. Yeah, they're kinda "dumb." These companies have incredible engineers but they still screw up really simple things. > I gotta say, I don't believe you. I've never once seen a Suggested link that wasn't to some kind of obvious click farm. This is clickbait content created by professional view arbitrage firms who use natural virality to make a buck. They are making money, but they aren't buying ads, they're selling them on their own websites. > Never once. If you want to make a technical argument that Facebook drives revenue via other means than direct payments, then that seems reasonably likely (if deliberately misleading). This is exactly the argument. And it's not an argument, it's a fact, assuming you aren't just missing the "sponsored/ad" labels on Facebook.com. Facebook is promoting this crap because most people are likely to click it and they are optimizing for engagement so people come back and click more, including on ads. > If you want to argue that these folks aren't spending money that ends up in Facebook's pocket in order for Facebook to put their content in front of my eyeballs... then I'm just going to laugh at you, sorry. This is not what was said and nobody intelligent would say this. (Strawman argument) > If Facebook didn't see benefit from putting this garbage in front of me that I never click on, then why would it be putting garbage in front of me that I never click on? Clearly Facebook wants me to click on it! Their algorithm hasn't figured you out as well as it has others. They promote low quality clickbait content BECAUSE it leads to "engagement" and clicks. They want you to like being on Facebook, and constant clicking = addiction. But these are not ads, unless you're missing an obvious "sponsored/ads" label.
- newacct583 5y ago
  >> If you want to make a technical argument that Facebook drives revenue via other means than direct payments, then that seems reasonably likely (if deliberately misleading). > This is exactly the argument. OK, then as mentioned I find that a specious and silly claim. My words above were that Suggested links constitute "Paid Content", and it seems you agree.
  - nl 5y ago
    Here the argument is that "suggested content" is popular, and FB showing it gets people to use their platform more, which in turn lets FB expose them to more (paid) ads. That's different to non-direct payments for the "suggested content", which is what you seem to believe is happening.
    - 55555 5y ago
      Yeah, I give up.

teknopaul 5y ago

Bollocks. I am not wrong that Facebook recommends not one single item of content that is relevant or from and friend of mine. Below is direct from Facebook. Apart from anything else its embarrassing if you pay these guys thinking they are the best at targeted ads. You telling me this content is by the peers of a 46 year old IT pro and not paid content with a straight face! nunca deberíamos juzgar con las aperencias! World (sic) most dangerous road SHE WAS AWAKE wake up babe Entran en la casa de una señora mayor y esto es lo que encontraron ESTA CHICA NO SABE LO QUE ESPERA the fire changed inside of the banana! she put spray paint in the TOILET Esto es muy feo que te pase!! que jovencita tan inteligente prepárate tomates como este la próxima vez ¿Instinto o el destino? Mira lo que hizo a esta! Que triste THIS!!! INCREDIBLE These pets are absolute divas! You can be stupid, but not that stupid. It's not a conspiracy. I don't need any research tool to tell me none of that was not written by my "friends".