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> based on Israel, the vaccine is also losing efficacy after 3-6 months so they are giving a 3rd shot now A study[0] released last week shows that the Pfizer v

> based on Israel, the vaccine is also losing efficacy after 3-6 months so they are giving a 3rd shot now A study[0] released last week shows that the Pfizer vaccine's effectiveness is still in the high 80s/low 90s after 6 months, and still 97% effective at preventing severe symptoms and hospitalizations. When compared to the annual flu vaccine, where the VE typically falls in the 30s and 40s, this vaccine is remarkably effective, even after 6 months. [0] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v...

busymom0 5y ago
Interesting. That seems to go against what Israel is reporting (one of the most vaccinated population if I remember right). And they are also using Pfizer & Moderna. > Recent data released by the Health Ministry shows that those who were first to receive their two doses of the Pfizer COVID vaccine are more likely now to be infected, as the vaccine appears to lose protection potency over time. Data released by the Health Ministry last week suggested that people vaccinated in January have just 16% protection against infection now, while in those vaccinated in April, the effectiveness was at 75%. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-severe-covid-cases-could-reach-400-by-mid-august-researchers-warn/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-severe-covid-cases-cou... > July 11, 2021: Israel offers third shot of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to adults at risk https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-offers-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-booster-shots-adults-risk-2021-07-11/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-offers-pfiz... https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/israel-offers-third-shot-of-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-to-adults-at-risk-1.5504923 https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/israel-offers-thir... Israel is also reporting that Pfizer is only 39% effective against Delta: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-v... Looks like contradictory reporting. Your last point about "When compared to the annual flu vaccine, where the VE typically falls in the 30s and 40s, this vaccine is remarkably effective, even after 6 months." proves my point. We don't mandate flu shots. And they are seasonal and very few people take them. This is exactly what I am saying - mandated vaccines like polio, chickenpox, measles etc last a lifetime or at least a few decades. That's not the case with these COVID vaccines, nor flu shots.

busymom0 5y ago

Interesting. That seems to go against what Israel is reporting (one of the most vaccinated population if I remember right). And they are also using Pfizer & Moderna. > Recent data released by the Health Ministry shows that those who were first to receive their two doses of the Pfizer COVID vaccine are more likely now to be infected, as the vaccine appears to lose protection potency over time. Data released by the Health Ministry last week suggested that people vaccinated in January have just 16% protection against infection now, while in those vaccinated in April, the effectiveness was at 75%. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-severe-covid-cases-could-reach-400-by-mid-august-researchers-warn/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-severe-covid-cases-cou... > July 11, 2021: Israel offers third shot of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to adults at risk https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-offers-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-booster-shots-adults-risk-2021-07-11/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-offers-pfiz... https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/israel-offers-third-shot-of-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-to-adults-at-risk-1.5504923 https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/israel-offers-thir... Israel is also reporting that Pfizer is only 39% effective against Delta: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-v... Looks like contradictory reporting. Your last point about "When compared to the annual flu vaccine, where the VE typically falls in the 30s and 40s, this vaccine is remarkably effective, even after 6 months." proves my point. We don't mandate flu shots. And they are seasonal and very few people take them. This is exactly what I am saying - mandated vaccines like polio, chickenpox, measles etc last a lifetime or at least a few decades. That's not the case with these COVID vaccines, nor flu shots.