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Surviving is not the same thing as living just as noise is not the same thing as music. People have lost their minds over covid and act in ways that they would

Surviving is not the same thing as living just as noise is not the same thing as music. People have lost their minds over covid and act in ways that they would have said were insane probably five years ago. A bunch of younger people at very little risk of getting horribly sick, are demanding that everyone get vaccinated wear masks and want life to be miserable even though it is older people who are saying I’d rather just live my life and if I die I die. I might get one dose of the vaccine, just so I can not be part of either side of this crazy debate.

watercooler_guy 5y ago
You can't become part of some crazy ideological group unless you start believing and spreading their rhetoric -- the crazies on both sides don't "own" the action of getting a vaccine. If you're already willing to get the vaccine, you may as well get both doses (assuming you're talking about a two-dose vaccine). You can keep living normally, instead of just surviving as you say, while affording yourself and others around you the maximum protection possible.
- mostertoaster 5y ago
  First two doses for me is completely pointless. I’ve already have covid and recovered, which should be enough, but the crazies have also insisted you should still get vaccine, but even the mighty spirit of our age “science” has said just getting one as a booster combined with natural immunity would probably make you less likely to get or spread it than even those with two doses. So no I will not get two doses because it is pointless. I might get one, and I’ll be more “safe” than all the others, yet I will purposefully not get two so I don’t get tempted to thinking those who didn’t should be shunned and isolated. Let me ask you this, if I was a coworker and you found out I wasn’t vaccinated, yet wasn’t following the mandates, would you just say whatever, or would you notify the hotline to report violators? Could you do that with a good conscience?
- mostertoaster 5y ago
  Also there are crazies on the other side too. People thinking there are giant conspiracies of powerful people plotting together how to get more power. No the scary thing about it all, is everyone the powerful and the weak are acting the way they are and feel completely justified and have their approval of their conscious.
ashtonkem 5y ago
> I might get one dose of the vaccine, just so I can not be part of either side of this crazy debate. What a silly way to make health decisions.
- lp0_on_fire 5y ago
  It's obvious sarcasm.
  - ashtonkem 5y ago
    In this era, it is not obvious sarcasm. They might have intended it as sarcasm, but it’s far from obvious. Edit: looks like it wasn’t sarcasm at all.
    - mostertoaster 5y ago
      I might actually get two doses in case my natural immunity is bad. And then rip up my vaccine card and will join with the non vaccinated crowd in not being allowed in restaurants demanding proof of vaccinations. Meanwhile as long as I’m not sick I will keep hanging out (as I’ve done this whole time) with my other non sick friends, and giving hugs and generally try to enjoy life.
      - ashtonkem 5y ago
        So you’re going to get the vaccine, and purposefully exclude yourself from restaurants you think it’s safe to go to in order to make a point on behalf of people protesting the vaccine for reasons you don’t believe. There’s a reason why I decided you weren’t making serious arguments worth debating. This is performative nonsense.
        mostertoaster 5y ago
        And there’s a reason your response is ignorant. You can make a straw man of my argument but don’t try to act like you are some high and mighty smart guy who knows better than those dumb dumbs down there. I know your type, you try to pretend that you’ve arrived at all your conclusions through thorough scientific processes coupled with your supreme intellect. Yet you prove to be more ignorant than most. Let me guess now you’ll say look at my degrees I am smart. There may come a time where you will have to choose to hide a non-vaxxer in your basement, or rat out the dangerously healthy individual to the authorities. I’d choose hiding them in my basement with my conscience wondering if I should, and you can choose ratting out your neighbor with the approval of your conscience.

watercooler_guy 5y ago

You can't become part of some crazy ideological group unless you start believing and spreading their rhetoric -- the crazies on both sides don't "own" the action of getting a vaccine. If you're already willing to get the vaccine, you may as well get both doses (assuming you're talking about a two-dose vaccine). You can keep living normally, instead of just surviving as you say, while affording yourself and others around you the maximum protection possible.

mostertoaster 5y ago
First two doses for me is completely pointless. I’ve already have covid and recovered, which should be enough, but the crazies have also insisted you should still get vaccine, but even the mighty spirit of our age “science” has said just getting one as a booster combined with natural immunity would probably make you less likely to get or spread it than even those with two doses. So no I will not get two doses because it is pointless. I might get one, and I’ll be more “safe” than all the others, yet I will purposefully not get two so I don’t get tempted to thinking those who didn’t should be shunned and isolated. Let me ask you this, if I was a coworker and you found out I wasn’t vaccinated, yet wasn’t following the mandates, would you just say whatever, or would you notify the hotline to report violators? Could you do that with a good conscience?
mostertoaster 5y ago
Also there are crazies on the other side too. People thinking there are giant conspiracies of powerful people plotting together how to get more power. No the scary thing about it all, is everyone the powerful and the weak are acting the way they are and feel completely justified and have their approval of their conscious.

ashtonkem 5y ago

> I might get one dose of the vaccine, just so I can not be part of either side of this crazy debate. What a silly way to make health decisions.

lp0_on_fire 5y ago
It's obvious sarcasm.
- ashtonkem 5y ago
  In this era, it is not obvious sarcasm. They might have intended it as sarcasm, but it’s far from obvious. Edit: looks like it wasn’t sarcasm at all.
  - mostertoaster 5y ago
    I might actually get two doses in case my natural immunity is bad. And then rip up my vaccine card and will join with the non vaccinated crowd in not being allowed in restaurants demanding proof of vaccinations. Meanwhile as long as I’m not sick I will keep hanging out (as I’ve done this whole time) with my other non sick friends, and giving hugs and generally try to enjoy life.
    - ashtonkem 5y ago
      So you’re going to get the vaccine, and purposefully exclude yourself from restaurants you think it’s safe to go to in order to make a point on behalf of people protesting the vaccine for reasons you don’t believe. There’s a reason why I decided you weren’t making serious arguments worth debating. This is performative nonsense.
      - mostertoaster 5y ago
        And there’s a reason your response is ignorant. You can make a straw man of my argument but don’t try to act like you are some high and mighty smart guy who knows better than those dumb dumbs down there. I know your type, you try to pretend that you’ve arrived at all your conclusions through thorough scientific processes coupled with your supreme intellect. Yet you prove to be more ignorant than most. Let me guess now you’ll say look at my degrees I am smart. There may come a time where you will have to choose to hide a non-vaxxer in your basement, or rat out the dangerously healthy individual to the authorities. I’d choose hiding them in my basement with my conscience wondering if I should, and you can choose ratting out your neighbor with the approval of your conscience.